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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago

I've been using the metaphor of demon possession lately to describe culture war dynamics I'll try to explain...

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

when you're in a good state of mindbody, you have agency, you can make choices, you have possession of all your faculties but when you're very distressed or triggered, your agency is temporarily unavailable. you're controlled by your unconscious reactions

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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being under unconscious control is akin to being controlled by an external agent, aka, possessed

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

if a lot of people are simultaneously having the same unconscious reaction to a single stimulus, you could say that they're all possessed by one pseudo-agent ≈ metaphorically speaking they're all possessed by the same demon

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

by the way, may the metaphor of Christ's love surround you while you read this thread, a warm aura of protection while we name what should not be named 🙏

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

I don't know much about demonology but the impression I get is that demons are extremely responsive to their names being spoken you can invoke a demon by using the right phrase, and you can exorcise it by naming it precisely

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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for example I know that when I'm in certain company, I can provoke a collective rage with a few words. I can control you by trolling you I won't say the phrases here but you can imagine the topics I'm thinking of: trans, cops, vax, trump, whites

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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all of those topics have immense potential energy, because they are attached to immensely important needs and values: freedom, health, safety, governance, identity they demand our attention

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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attention snowballs watch Wild Wild Country: crowds of acolytes fix devoted attention on a silent guru, unaware he'd disintegrated into a drugged out stupor fresh acolytes keep joining in, thinking if everyone else is looking at him he must be worth my attention

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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attention cascades https://t.co/5Y5H92ZQnY

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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to disable a metaphorical memetic demon you need to be able to actively and precisely withdraw your attention from it ≈ stop reciting its curses, stop chanting its name

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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but like I said, the demon is attached to something very important. we can't just ignore freedom, health, safety, identity etc we need to engage with the underlying issues skilfully, without triggering more demon possession

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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if someone is possessed by one of these metaphorical demons and they see you withdraw your attention from it, they will immediately attack or cajole you, do anything in their power to recapture your attention for their master, because attention is what powers a demon

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

see replies to this thread for examples https://t.co/d02X9bKsBK

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago

withdraw your attention from what you want to see less of in the world

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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the culture war is fought by competing memetic demons the more people who are enrolled into the cause, the stronger the demons get, and the less humanity is left in the people

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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I used to use social media to advocate for important political causes, but I think I had a net negative impact on the issues I care about reciting special phrases online does not actually reduce suffering or inequity or injustice, it just signals my ideo-nationalist loyalties

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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now my mute list looks like this: these are the kinds of topics which are excluded from my attention https://t.co/jSvWO00Yuy

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

as I free up more of my attention I can focus on what I want to see more of, and I can get clean feedback to know if my actions are getting the results I desire I'm eating organic instead of gorging on the polluted information ecology https://t.co/64Ll9DWmnt

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 3 years ago

focus on what you want to see more of

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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if you learn how to speak about important issues without summoning demons into the room you will be rewarded with a diverse coalition of allies

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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micro scale example: withdraw your attention from a narcissist and he will experience it as a violation

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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PS I only said it was a metaphor so you would listen

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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diverse coalition of allies includes angels and other higher beings https://t.co/GhOVKpRzRH cc: @PageauJonathan & @vervaeke_john who showed me how to think like this

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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so all of this is to say yes, I do care about your experience of marginalisation and I want you to feel welcome here but no I will not recite the script you expect me to say to cast a spell of protection over this space

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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my demonish train of thought was also influenced by this conversation https://t.co/h6Tb9YNprz thanks @fullydavid @johnrobb @jgreenhall @Freakoutery @peternlimberg & Patrick Ryan

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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another example: I used to make extra efforts to elevate the voices of women and other marginalised genders in my publications now I think it's as least as important to elevate men worth emulating (my audience is majority men) https://t.co/jY1sRi7gJc

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 4 years ago

I'm going to curate a thread of my favourite educators on youtube probably mostly various types of engineering, music, science & DIY stuff everyone on this list produces exceptional material

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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https://t.co/HUJ18vNUPe

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago

what if connecting people back to the best parts of their divorced Christian lineage is good actually

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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oh and just to show I'm also subject to possession: I was having a conversation about agency this week and someone used the manchurian trigger phrase "white man" and I was immediately possessed by reactive anger for a few minutes (we repaired the relationship soon after)

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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and I will have to put my phone on airplane soon or I'll be possessed by the dopamine demon and misplace my own intelligence

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Forth ❤️‍🔥@forthrighteralmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels dopamine demon is such an interesting and apt idea, a mix of magic and science

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ChrisD@sensefulroninalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels “Say the line, Rich!” https://t.co/R0FBScxzF1

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels mmmm, yeah, this makes me think... if you're possessed by a particular demon, then you feel protection if someone casts the particular spell that invokes that demon in others as well

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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevosalmost 3 years ago
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@RichDecibels Oh hello

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @pepijndevos

@pepijndevos meow

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Onion - ephemeral edgelord (58 of 100 draw things)@franki3stoneover 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels Coming back to this post and replying as the person across the road screams “fuck” continuously in what I can only assume is a mental health fuelled rage and ask myself, “is this outburst a demon penetrating the mindset”….

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Ra is DJing at Cascade Camp 9-12 to 9-15@slimepriestessalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels This is part of a larger construct, what Acceptance and Commitment Therapy calls Cognitive Fusion/Defusion. That is to say, whether you take something as a mental object, or whether it is a part of the assumptive landscape you are subject to. See also: https://t.co/LdHYvhsBK1

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsalmost 3 years ago
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@slimepriestess oooooooh thank you priestess

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Ra is DJing at Cascade Camp 9-12 to 9-15@slimepriestessalmost 2 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels it's not external, it's still you, the separation is a confabulation used to discharge accountability for a socially negotiated subset of your actions, that schelling-negotiated denial? that's the demon. https://t.co/8vvnqp3XUO

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ChrisD@sensefulroninalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels @gnomicperfect is covering exactly the work you're conveying but calls it "intersubjective parasites". https://t.co/9Y7YTKHkUr I think you get more into the "how to respond", while Evan is more technical about the phenomenon.

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ChrisD@sensefulroninalmost 3 years ago
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@RichDecibels @gnomicperfect "Intersubjective exorcism" comes up a bit within the sessions so I know that there are ties to demons in Evan's analysis.

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hart the phoenix@puheenixalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @sensefulronin

@sensefulronin @RichDecibels @gnomicperfect I thought of this too. rich, it strikes me as a discussion you’d be into & have insights about he’s wrapping up the 5-part series tomorrow (10/31) at 6pm ET https://t.co/SUrtXK9Eil

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Kahlil Corazo 🧭 Explorations.ph@kcorazoalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels I can't believe no one has mentioned @kevinsimler's neurons gone wild in the comments! I used the same model to understand why my countrymen elected the son of the dictator Marcos (and why so many of us found this so baffling) https://t.co/60sVcXnLih

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanalmost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels @Morphenius this thread is very in line with stuff you've been writing/talking/thinking about and here it is as a post for easier sharing elsewhere https://t.co/KSuDEu1ywk

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RomeoStevens@RomeoStevens76almost 3 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean @RichDecibels @Morphenius See also: the demon/hell realm chapter of Opening the Heart of Compassion

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