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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

A weird thing popped up while looking up the paper on how 'Klebsiella pneumoniae' can produce alcoholhttps://t.co/7ugbnbSY26 https://t.co/TKlJGtsuUC

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 4 years ago

Maybe IL6 is not stress?"People suffering from Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) are roughly three times as likely to die from coronavirus than those who did not suffer from any liver disease, according to a recent study done"https://t.co/qkBXGxvXLL

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A different bacteria can enhance impact?"identified a cell-destroying toxin called cytolysin produced by select strains of [Enterococcus faecalis] as the likely reason that some patients with alcoholic liver disease had severe symptoms."https://t.co/ARqYxY4D8p

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

if you googe that chemical, use: Cytolysin OR cytotoxin OR "Cytolytic toxin"

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I am not certain if that chemical is same as "Vibrio Cholerae Cytolysin" one, but that has some weird aspects to it too."An additional domain in the VCC toxin is related to plant lectins, conferring additional target cell specificity to the toxin." https://t.co/TAjdq5JZgt

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

This suggests to me that gut bacteria may be producing something similar to what Covid already may be doing.That lectin thing shows up in other Covid related research. It is cited as possibly one of factors for how gut bacteria may be impacting outcomes https://t.co/oybvQtFkOx

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That paper is a bit hard to read due to some language barriers, but this is the thing they cite. On how lectins may be enhancing SARS-CoV-2: https://t.co/L5xyGgXjNQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Which implies that the Cytolysin thing, if it is infact acting the same as VCC and mirroring Lectins, could be driving poor outcomes?

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I had previously fingered Alcohol Use Disorders as being tied to poor bile function, and suspected that may be the cause for problems there. But bacterial production of cytotoxin might be the real thing driving this? https://t.co/VF6M0efNTF

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That E. Faecalis cytolysin isn't that novel. There's a paper on it from 2003."of interest because its activities enhance enterococcal virulence in infection models and, in epidemiological studies, it has been associated with patient mortality." https://t.co/TQriqQY6Br

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Which in the case of (non-)alcoholic-liver-disease, suggests it is an opportunistic infection that would normally be kept at bay somehow in a a gut environment lacking alcohol.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That opportunistic aspect seems to be something going on with Covid as well.With Enterococcal species causing infections in the blood stream. https://t.co/PSNJLBEmtW

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

And we also have a case report of someone having a secondary bacterial infection of Enterococcus Faecalis.https://t.co/ahKAXGePKm

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The question then becomes, how common are these secondary bacterial infections and what others might be driving poor outcomes? and I'd posit: what is naturally occurring in those who don't succumb to these pathogens?

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'd be curious if there is something about what Covid is doing to the body that impacts Cholesterol-dependent cytolysins in particular, or if is a more generic issue of cell destruction.https://t.co/ietqoSwD3k

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Lipid dysfunction in general seems to be a commonality across risk factors.There are some alarming shifts in cholesterol that I saw that alarmed me due to my own focus on cholesterol's role in myelin formation.https://t.co/slrezzXvVv

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"With recovery [...] the serum lipid levels return towards levels present prior to infection. In patients that failed to survive, [lipids] were lower at admission to the hospital and continued to decline during the hospitalization." https://t.co/A14T2knUyK

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I like when someone else sees the same pattern as me.https://t.co/ZDriHEusua

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