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Patrick Collison@patrickc• about 3 years ago

Another person just told me that they had their RSI cured by Sarno's techniques: https://t.co/RGGfCxVHy7. While it sounds like preposterous woo, it has worked in 4/4 cases of people I personally know trying it. (One account: https://t.co/8ie9NkJfWF.)

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Patrick Collison@patrickc• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

Oh, and, it was recently the subject of an RCT, with apparently encouraging results: https://t.co/7p2MIchUnh.

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Mitchell Baldridge@baldridgecpa• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc One of the greatest books out there about mindset

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Jim O'Shaughnessy@jposhaughnessy• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Hey Patrick, I have a lot of direct experience with the Sarno method and know there are some very cool things happening around it, with skeptical MDs (I've donated to one) doing double-blind tests to see how it fares. @InfiniteL88ps with the Dr. and a TMS therapist drops soon.

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8/17/2022
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Kristina Simmons@ksimm• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc I just bought this book for my mom--thanks!

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8/17/2022
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Christina Bognet@CBognet• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Cured my co-founder and many other friends too. We made a whole module about it for our diabetes product because so many patients struggled with pain. Truly groundbreaking stuff. I'll dropbox you his documentary.

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Talia Goldberg@TaliaGold• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc This post is an advertisement for functional medicine. Data and diagnostics are starting to move “root cause care” from niche to mainstream. The number of chronic conditions that can be effectively treated with methods like this is massive. Cc @Rupa_Health @TaraViswanathan

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Ryan Delk@delk• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc As someone who has been a vocal advocate for this, I’m curious what your working theory is for the efficacy here? (Just starting the book.)

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Patrick Collison@patrickc• about 3 years ago
Replying to @delk

@delk No idea. I haven't even read the book myself. (Haven't had any chronic pain.) I've just had a series of extremely smart friends describe it as enormously impactful.

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Benjamin Carlson@bfcarlson• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc As you suggest, woo is in the eye of the beholder.

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8/17/2022
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Victor Mota@vimota• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc This video covers it really well from one of Sarnos students https://t.co/1xmsKLrtFE

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8/17/2022
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Amy Jo Kim@amyjokim• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc A good friend of mine had this experience, & recommended Sarno's work. It's the real deal - it works. BTW I studied pain perception & management in neuroscience grad school - & given what I learned, these mind/body mechanisms make complete sense within a scientific context

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shako@cauchyfriend• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc @lndian_Bronson I’ve done yoga/meditation to remove mild chronic pain. My theory is we can enter these states though deep concentration that let us edit “root files” within our software, and can reprogram out-of-sync negative feedback loops. Like booting into the bios.

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Alex Teichman@alex_teichman• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc I had RSI bad enough I thought I’d have to drop out of the CS phd. Many doctors and physical therapists were well meaning but useless. Sarno’s technique worked, thankfully. Not sure I buy the claimed reason it worked, but: All models are wrong, some are useful.

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8/17/2022
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matt knox@mattknox• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc It would be really interesting to do a smallish RCT of this vs other treatments. If the effect is as large as the Avesta suggest, a pretty small N would do.

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8/17/2022
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Jared Friedman@snowmaker• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc It cured my RSI (and I'm default skeptical of things like this). I recommended it to @richardprice100 , who is actually the person who organized the RCT.

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Amjad Masad@amasad• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Btw Dr Sarno claimed that it’s not just back pain but all sorts of chronic illnesses work like that. He opens the book with an observation that they come and go like fashion (apparently ulcers was all the rage in the 90s).

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Prasanna K@prasanna_says• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc From what I understood, the root cause is similar to what Vipassana talks about as well. During Vipassana, I was in tremendous pain a long sit, & as I shifted awareness, realized a specific muscle was stiff. As I grew aware, muscle relaxed, pain was gone - unbelievable!

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Luca Dellanna@DellAnnaLuca• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc On the mechanics of Sarno's approach and in general on how pain is not a signal of damage but of vulnerability https://t.co/dNBnV3FbYd https://t.co/rTn5XLfPWt

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Michelle Tandler 🎗@michelletandler• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Yes just read the Amazon reviews. So much of back pain comes from stress

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Caleb Hannan@calebhannan• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc I am not kidding when I say that last night I saw this tweet, read the description of the book, and immediately untensed in a way that, temporarily at least, "cured" me of some recent neck stiffness.

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8/17/2022
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Lauren Wagner@typewriters• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Chronic pain (and it’s subcategories) was recently added to the list of global diagnostic codes, meaning treatment for chronic pain like what you mentioned will likely be covered by insurance at some point soon (insurance coverage follows ICD 11 codes)

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Kevin Kelly@kevin2kelly• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Worked for me.

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Daniel Doyon@deadly_onion• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc funny how its in the religion section

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Austen Allred@Austen• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Preposterous Woo would be a great name for a band

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Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc worked for me - I quit an unfulfilling job and my hands cleared right up (even though I use the computer more now)

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8/17/2022
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Jonathan Blow@Jonathan_Blow• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Dancers tend to have had many strong experiences showing close connection between old/repressed emotions and physical movement that you’d expect to be unrelated. But they don’t tend to be people we listen to about this stuff (not undeservedly since they are pretty wacky).

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tobi lutke@tobi• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc @altryne Also sleep problems via CBT-I works perfectly

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Will Manidis@WillManidis• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc fwiw, like 90% of the top mds/hospital admins/payor execs I’ve met so far are so far into woo medicine we’d want to institutionalize them. these people are keeping the HC alive and are talking in private about balancing chakras and if Ray peat didn’t go far enough

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Jamie Quint@jamiequint• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Also cured my RSI, and back pain for another founder I know well.

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8/19/2022
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phil (on farcaster)@philmohun• about 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc Related: https://t.co/pEJgVNzVxy

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8/21/2022
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Nick@nickcammarata• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc similar genre, there's tons of reports of people using psychedelics (5ht2a agonists) to "rewire" muscles that were once hurt, healed, but got stuck with the hurt range of motion. Apparently on them it's easier to teach "hey you're healed and have range of motion again"

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Ryan Danz@RyanDanz• over 2 years ago
Replying to @patrickc

@patrickc ill take the woo-woo stuff at this point ... Thank you!

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