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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago

boundaries are a 2-person dance in a field whose ground truth is changing it’s when you don’t trust one or the other person you have to set your foot down and set static boundaries “no means no!” etc.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

boundaries are inherently 2-person process why? bc boundaries are not static. they are dynamic

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

they exist within a changing field. it takes 2 to define and continually change and explore the field there’s an absolutely canonical thread from @ElodesNL everyone should read on this point https://t.co/YZJn9UBYom

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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago

@phallusoraptors from this perspective, the pertinent question isn't, "am I changing her boundaries?" it's, "does she have the space she needs to remain connected to her own boundaries (as well as to her own meta-boundaries)?" so long as she remains connected, you can basically try anything.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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it takes 2 to play the dance of probe a bit, maybe overreach, sense, listen, correct

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

if someone has bad boundaries, you just can’t play that game with them at the slightest violation, they will turn on the other person bc by the time they consciously feel the violation, a lot has already happened

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

what do you do with someone who has bad boundaries? give them the space to stay in touch with their meta-boundaries https://t.co/OWL1JXvOPY

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

conversely, what do you do with someone who doesn’t sense you very well? who won’t back off easily? have to be much more guarded. or unafraid to be explicit

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

most of us aren’t very good at being that direct and explicit with these people. i’m not. “they talk too much.” “they’re probing too much.” well maybe it would be fine if i spoke up, but that’s too scary and unpleasant for me

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

and that’s fine. i don’t have to interact with them but it’s nice to understand the process play out understand how and why things go wrong and right beyond the static definitions of boundaries

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

boundaries are a 2-person dance in a field whose ground truth is changing it’s when you don’t trust one or the other person you have to set your foot down and set static boundaries “no means no!” etc.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

it takes two to continually discover boundaries and it’s a shame to not treat them as mutable. bc beautiful things can happen when you do. bc mutable boundaries are the truth about the world https://t.co/YZJn9UBYom

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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago

@phallusoraptors from this perspective, the pertinent question isn't, "am I changing her boundaries?" it's, "does she have the space she needs to remain connected to her own boundaries (as well as to her own meta-boundaries)?" so long as she remains connected, you can basically try anything.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

“you can do anything as long as both of you are connected to your boundaries” conversely if you’re not, less can happens, and it’s ok to hang out in that space too

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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_almost 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth Maybe boundary testing is a game where the goal is actually cultivating meta boundary respect, or meta trust https://t.co/Bxv3UjJgwo

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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_about 3 years ago

I wonder in how many domains “Meta-x” is what you actually care about. For example, I think in relationships, one of the most important things is “meta trust”, trust that when (not if) trust is broken/someone is hurt, that you can heal/repair/reconcile

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Rick Benger@rickbengeralmost 3 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@justavagrant_ @AskYatharth broke: boundaries woke: membranes

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