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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago

I’m searching for words to reference “divine masculine” and “divine feminine” that feel neutral, rather than charged w gender baggage. any suggestions? metaphorical preferred. like “waves / islands” is to “anxious / avoidant” my ideas so far: wood / leaves, or vessel / liquid.

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5/24/2022
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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation from my post: https://t.co/FV0bZx77ZG

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5/24/2022
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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago
Replying to @ElodesNL

@relic_radiation and from my alt: https://t.co/r296YvpE5u

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5/24/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @ElodesNL

@ElodesNL “I’m a flower trying to blossom my way into being a rock” 💕💕 I’m a fire trying to blaze itself into tranquility

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5/24/2022
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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation unironically I believe we will be able to go there 🔥🌻 but it is good too be a fire or a flower

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5/24/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @ElodesNL

@ElodesNL you wrote it!! 😍 thanks for linking, this dropped while I was inside my massage portal and I missed it. I look forward to reading the whole thing ~

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5/24/2022
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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation you'll be reading for a while! should be worth it though ;-) https://t.co/OPHa3JPxib (would be happy to hear your thoughts, positive or negative. hmu anytime)

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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago

thread of praise for my series of posts on men's suffering https://t.co/OVgpCDJBfj

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5/24/2022
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Forth ❤️‍🔥@forthrighterover 3 years ago
Replying to @ElodesNL

@ElodesNL @relic_radiation this reminds me of linguistic gendering too; in German, clocks are feminine and days of the week are masculine. It's about dealing with things in categories, not imputing gendered concepts onto clocks https://t.co/a2K9i8Cs9r

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5/25/2022
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Forth ❤️‍🔥@forthrighterover 3 years ago
Replying to @forthrighter

@ElodesNL @relic_radiation gender as in masculine/feminine is the most readily cognitively available 2-pole classification system because the dichotomy between men & women is a polar system encountered by everyone, daily, for the last 50,000+ years this is not in any way a political tweet

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5/25/2022
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Forth ❤️‍🔥@forthrighterover 3 years ago
Replying to @forthrighter

@ElodesNL @relic_radiation it isn't arbitrary, rather it's universal across culture, religion, space, and time. Consider yin/yang or waves/islands (other suggestions in thread). These are distinctly *not* universal across all of those human experiences & cultures https://t.co/m6149MBI7U

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago

@RojizoVegas Mostly because to me, the ends of the polarity feel completely unrelated to inherent qualities of men and women! Calling them “masculine” and “feminine” feels as arbitrary as calling them “green” and “purple”

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5/25/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

my favorites so far: yielding :: holding, shaping substrate :: sprout

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5/24/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

great question about “why?” am I searching. helped me clarify it for myself. essentially - I deeply feel this polarity as real and meaningful to my life, and also that it has 0% to do with gender. calling it masc / fem feels as arbitrary as green / purple https://t.co/HPCXGrLd1f

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago

@RojizoVegas Mostly because to me, the ends of the polarity feel completely unrelated to inherent qualities of men and women! Calling them “masculine” and “feminine” feels as arbitrary as calling them “green” and “purple”

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5/24/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

petition to rename “sex and gender studies” to “polarity studies” or better yet, “vital pulse studies” let’s look beyond the tip, to the rest of the iceberg 🌊

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5/24/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

tbh I suspect my struggle here is: I'm more interested in the middle of the polarity,the 'union of distinct poles' of it, than what the poles are. poles differ in every case,hence our struggle naming them. it's the alive pulsing alchemizing attractive union bw them that persists

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5/25/2022
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Loopy@strangestloopover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation hmmm it's unclear to me how to make naming progress for the union beyond broad truths like life, vitality, energy

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5/25/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @strangestloop

@strangestloop “vital pulse” resonates in me for this. maybe I’ll keep using it till it catches on ;P https://t.co/XUmqKda6lW

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago

Hmm sitting with this, I choose to change my wording from “cycle” to “pulse” - the pulse of life. I also rephrase the “life/death” oscillation to “birth/death,” and “growth/decay.” Life doesn’t feel like the opposite of death - life feels like the whole pulse!

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5/25/2022
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Loopy@strangestloopover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation it's a good phrase! could you share how it might come up in conversation? this whole exploration is great too. i recently saw some diagram that labeled the inhale as female and the exhale as male and i was like huh? says who?

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5/25/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @strangestloop

@strangestloop 😂😂😂 oh wow thank you for that reducto ad absurdum. ya last I checked both genders need to breath both in and out

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5/25/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@strangestloop trying to categorize everything male / female strikes me as trying to cut a magnet in half (if u ain’t tried this, it doesn’t work - you wind up with two magnets that still have two poles each)

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5/25/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationover 3 years ago
Replying to @strangestloop

@strangestloop in conversation - so far it’s mostly a reminder to myself. in particular, it’s helping me leave breathing room in my calendar :P “no elena don’t put back-to-back travels and hangouts, leave space for the generative vital pulse”

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5/25/2022
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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationabout 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

ok after a month the dust has settled, and I’ve converged on “holding / yielding” 😊 yay! if I reaaaaally must, I refer to “classical feminine” and “classical masculine” to avoid drawing conclusions about the future. that’s mostly to refer to culture tho, not my own cosmology

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6/30/2022
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Mary🌙 🌔@profoundishover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation I tend to use contraction vs expansion

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5/24/2022
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daniel brottman 🪷@danielbrottmanover 3 years ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation yin/yang comes to mind although ofc that comes with a lot of cultural context already too. shinzen young favors expansion/contraction. also i haven't read this book but it suggests "congressive/ingressive" https://t.co/9RRQ2rkXPJ

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5/25/2022