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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Taylorism never ended, it just stood by until the demand arose again. https://t.co/MIdbwU6ZvB

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

When I worked in grocery, they used scan rate to track how effective you were as an employee. People figured out you could trick the system to stop scanning by pressing 'subtotal'. It would pause it.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The problem was that the fastest scanners would just be tossing items down the belt without keeping it organized for the bag-boy. The bag boy would end up overpacking or slowing down.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The "best" cashiers had been promoted to front-end shift lead at some point. She would shit on the performance of the bag-boys behind their back.We were all autistic or physically handicapped.Metrics made employees compete w/ each other & drove bad experiences for "guests".

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I say "bag-boy" because they never had women do the carts. It was weird to me, as my ex-wife was one in Connecticut and she was really good at it.I was fast at bagging, but I would sweat a lot (and I also did shopping carts, so I'd already be over-heated). It was uncomfortable.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I later learned that the shift-lead was the one who set schedules and had a say in who stayed and who left.I didn't get hours for twos week after I told her it was a fire hazard to put the shopping carts in front of the main door when the other one was locked.I love metrics.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Sometimes I would go there and she'd be the only cashier. I would bag my own groceries light. I had to carry them up flights of stairs and my arms were starting to not work back then.I packed well because I grew up watching my mom struggle with grocery bags.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I still remember the look on her face when I asked her to not toss things down the belt when she hit me with a can once.That kind of bullshit is why I think a lot about replacing systems like that w/ self-service shopping carts.https://t.co/RY6ZNUTEG5

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 5 years ago

This is really smart: using the customer's own effort to scan their groceries as the data-harvesting method for automating item detection.https://t.co/xPYC0qIv99

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I had memorized every item in the store & could pack w/ two hands moving independently. I'd create structure in the bags, and move things into them without looking *and* not damage the goods. I enjoyed it.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Cashiers would get mad at me cuz I would re-arrange things on the fly as they came down and wouldn't put them in the bags right away.They just wanted to make a pile for he bag-boys to dig thru.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

At times I was only person who could keep up with the fastest one as bagger cuz I could path plan every item on the belt as they went thru, and spent all my time as a cart-pusher thinking about real world sorting / bin packing optimization problems.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That year I learned about people being petty, that misandry exists, and how important it is for some to maintain their ego.I shouldn't have said anything when the can hit my hand, she wouldn't have felt like I had embarrassed her and attacked her status in front of a customer.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I should have just kept my head down and not said anything about the fire hazard either. Maybe I wouldn't have lost the ability to feed myself and put further strain on my marriage.

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5/2/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

It was also the year I learned about Goodhart’s Law.Why was I reading Goodhart's law as a cart-pusher?https://t.co/HEg41j8uOT

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wanted to understand how broken systems that hurt people and drive employee churn were still functioning as intended. https://t.co/QjOAXlp42G

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 5 years ago

Walking around a grocery center's parking lot, pretending i'm an algorithm. Recreating 'Harold Garfinkel’s tutorial cases' as a form of self-ethnomethodology. Musing on actual salesman traveling around like ants; what it might imply about social cognition.https://t.co/8Lv8V3W51p

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That company is still growing.https://t.co/jWFO0K0WzX

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I believe that companies grow bigger when they feel like they have a threat.Most of the people I know back where I use to live are choosing to go to a local Dollar General than drive 60 miles to Price Chopper. It all boils down to gas money.https://t.co/CEUD7v0EvB

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago

Dollar General is becoming the rural area store of choice because, as far as I can tell, no one else gives a fuck about the poor people in the woods. Very few are trying to crack that market because it is ridiculously hard to turn a profit. https://t.co/idDSbhYpuv

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

These companies don't seem to have a larger strategy. They blindly follow management fads learned in MBA programs & leverage monopolies + moat building to keep customers.Would be shame if someone were to come along & undermine your entire business model. https://t.co/JYHp0yr2IM

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 7 years ago

Price chopper was working on a similar product a while back, but I think they realized they didn't have the expertise to do it well. It is exciting to see instacart partner with them. https://t.co/uafxpTph6n

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