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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

I've only known one male nurse. It was my dad. He worked at 3 different nursing homes and it was the same way for him.Dad made more than female nurses b/c he was willing + able to work Baylor hours over weekend and do overtime. Mom had me on weekends. https://t.co/4iHNMD0nrG https://t.co/nw68ZxhxcC https://t.co/HGHrJf03Ug

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The nursing profession is one of most heavily female biased fields we have. Part of the pay gap here is due to childcare concerns. The entire reason Baylor hours exist is due to nursing shortages, (particularly on weekends when kids aren't at school).I hated not seeing my dad.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Flight attendants are also gender biased because of a fucked up artifact of history. https://t.co/mbXrrWRl4R https://t.co/5OFTeSfROk

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Typist and receptionists jobs are also horribly biased. It's a huge problem with a strange history.I'm not the least surprised to see a statistical machine learning system extrapolate underlying biases we have as a society.https://t.co/gjVmIUZP4D

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

We should expect to see gender reflected in the jobs we as an AI to reproduce *if* what we have done is train an AI to hold a mirror up to our art.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

If you want an AI to depict men, ask it for jobs that are dangerous.For some reason these are also jobs that require you to be way from home for long periods of time.How much of this is due to biases around childcare expectations? No one mentions this.https://t.co/Gb8rRHqnmP

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I always see people wringing their hands and bending over backwards looking for evolutionary theories for why men dominate the dangerous jobs. https://t.co/p4EEg06VZpBut no one ever stops to think about childcare norms being a player.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

When you see the childcare undercurrent here, it shifts the perspective on what is going on.Historically receptionists and Typist were typically unmarried women who without a husband after WWII killed so many. Flight attendants were specifically asked to be unmarred women!

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Children Minding!"By the mid-nineteenth century, teaching was considered a natural extension of a woman’s caretaking nature. Teaching was also one of the few respectable jobs a woman could have, [...] the job afforded women independence before marriage." https://t.co/pF92Wcj840

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What is really strange is that in teaching as a profession, there was actually a bit of a push toward more equality, but it somehow started slipping?https://t.co/0rKDu5qNSh https://t.co/vGMSbm2E4z

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Can we try asking the AI to depict "teachers" at various time periods, or by subject taught? That would be an interesting foray into the model the AI has built up.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

We live in a society.https://t.co/kfZN96kQYF

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 5 years ago

A society where childcare costs are almost impossible to pay even if both parents work 2 jobs.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Shakespeare said that art is a mirror held up to nature. And that’s what it is. The nature is your nature, and all of these wonderful poetic images of mythology are referring to something in you." ― Joseph Campbell

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

An interesting observation by @LorentzianJelly:"in the distant past, most nursing was taken care of by devout religious, who had taken vows of celibacy, and so had no family of their own anyway"When did this become a "nun's job"?https://t.co/w7OaxDOntE

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 5 years ago

You got sick from "sinning" -> you got gonorrhoea from fucking a prostitute at a brothel."Concerns about the sexual transmission of disease via prostitutes were often addressed in an entirely rational manner."

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I know there's supposedly a roman thing going on here, but that might be misunderstood?https://t.co/fi50w3cvRhAre the celibacy traditions a more recent tradition, unrelated to the antinatalist beliefs in antiquity? https://t.co/fWh6xWhynv https://t.co/C836WBpWiA

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Why are these always suicide cults?https://t.co/RD2hYl8R7NHas this really been happening since (at least) the 1200s as that substack suggests? Gnostic/Mystic cults seem to be trace-able back further IIRC.

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