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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

the typical human is pronatalist as far as I can tell so I don’t really see the point of caring or worrying about antinatalism. Like, by definition this will sort itself out so why bother

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

Replying to @visakanv

oh it’s all peer status games? ok then

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

Replying to @visakanv

everything is peer status games including this tweet

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

Replying to @visakanv

serious thread for people who are seriously concerned https://t.co/m1PuBuPtfq

Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

seems a few of my friends are actually concerned about this, so ok here are some constructive thoughts if you're worried abt people trying to spread the meme of "don't have kids, kids bad", the best thing u can do is have kids yourself and show off havin a great time with them https://t.co/hXD75Jd1yL

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james, the giant peach@JimmyRis• over 3 years ago

Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Yeah the species as a whole will persist no problem, the people that should be concerned are concerned about their particular clump of folks not persisting

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james, the giant peach@JimmyRis• over 3 years ago

Replying to @JimmyRis

@visakanv Feels like a question not of “will there be people” but of “will there be people I want to hang out with and that my kids will want to hang out with”

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @JimmyRis

@JimmyRis @visakanv That's not the fear.https://t.co/yZPI47JRys

UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

I now know what to do to sterilize every single human being on earth. Just stick an some mRNA in that generates antibodies against "antihuman chorionic gonadotropin""contraceptive vaccines"https://t.co/cZlnbybCgLBam, no more pregnancy.https://t.co/oHRGSBBZQT

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv The fear is this is some kind of conspiracy to depopulate everyone."Because soon, humanity will be a lot smaller and older than it is today."https://t.co/1KCIoVVJJGhttps://t.co/QTIqGqyY6N

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

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@JimmyRis @visakanv Stuff like thishttps://t.co/YhXmuXJMjO

UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@literalbanana @visakanv @eigenrobot I wonder how many people thinking that going to war would be good for the environment in the long run. Lots of people believe the Malthusianism.I worry this is a cry to action for a cull. Dueling death cults.https://t.co/Z8TksID79f

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv I'm basically antinatalist, but I'm not "Church of Euthanasia" level of depopulation. I just don't want kids myself.https://t.co/a0aS2angMy

UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago

Sorry. I have a lot of snark built up because I live with a staunch pro-lifer who is covering my rent, and I am basically one step away from being an antinatalist.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

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@JimmyRis @visakanv The fear is that these ideas spread.https://t.co/fWh6xWhynv

UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Why are these always suicide cults?https://t.co/RD2hYl8R7NHas this really been happening since (at least) the 1200s as that substack suggests? Gnostic/Mystic cults seem to be trace-able back further IIRC.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv And that they have a long lineage. I've traced these back to ancient greek.https://t.co/9Eszu8Fxi3

UltimApe@ultimape• over 5 years ago

Did you know there were medieval cults focused on castration?https://t.co/iaxdZszi3rThis makes sense when you consider that modern medicine has been doing wonders at preventing death from STDs.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv Though it is true that most of the on the ground memetic ideologies about it are absolutely deranged conspiracy theories used by one group to demonize another.Most.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv My belief is that we are doing it by accident because we are all idiots. https://t.co/ALeDdkKEop

UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago

Did you know that institutionalized schizophrenic women would have their uterus removed b/c birth control doesn't work for that population - if anything with higher levels of diabetic/pcos issues, the pill can actually improve fertility.Pregnancy is hellhttps://t.co/WZrBebIFxI

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv Though I also think some of us might be doing it on purpose.https://t.co/0tYZeYiSMM

UltimApe@ultimape• about 7 years ago

"The idea would be to assemble thinkers in robotics, cybernetics, quantum computing, A.I., synthetic biology, genomics, and space travel, as well as philosophers, to discuss the technology and the ethics of human replacement." 👀https://t.co/dnqlWOQLHN

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv I know there are people out there who believe what I believe and actually want to act on it. https://t.co/oKHCZQ4HjR

UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@MereMirabel @no_identd Selfish gene theory suggests I would have more reproductive success by upregulating memetic parasites and acting on Third Order Cybernetic control systems.https://t.co/XOzAvG9nHN

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

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@JimmyRis @visakanv I'm afraid of people.https://t.co/WE14IgWIVg

UltimApe@ultimape• about 7 years ago

I went from having all these AI + genetic + biology ideas in my head to having people working on them live in such a short time.Realizing that other smart people were thinking the same things, have the means to do it, but may not be doing them on the level, is what scares me.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@JimmyRis @visakanv * like mehttps://t.co/VJC4C6n50P

UltimApe@ultimape• about 4 years ago

@balajis @naval People like me, but with malicious motives, target amplification nodes to ripple a ideas out. Subtle programming of a society via secondary and tertiary contagion. Some might call it NLP. I call it Magick. Others call them rumors, shibboleths, sorcery.https://t.co/s1LxqQiyyS

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james, the giant peach@JimmyRis• over 3 years ago

Replying to @ultimape

@ultimape @visakanv Totally: these fears won’t be assuaged by people having kids mimetically Deflating the Cyborg Theocracy will take more direct action methinks

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Replying to @JimmyRis

@JimmyRis @visakanv I decided to become a morlock.https://t.co/aj0rIUffK6

UltimApe@ultimape• about 5 years ago

I know how to dig underground complexes safely.I've been learning how to reinforce dirt walls.Been slowly going thru engineering manuals I find online that explore the principles and topics found here: https://t.co/lncOw43OwEI am become ant king.https://t.co/ReDYbKKIOL

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