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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

"gods are literally egregores" ok, ok, but what does this postrat truth mean?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

gods are literally egregores in the sense that you wouldn’t know about Krishna or Kali if no one told you about them you might dream up or witness your own godly entity, and it might rhyme with other cultures’ gods

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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but the idea of Krishna that someone communicates to you, the reverence—that is the initiation in that moment, they have gifted you an entire god

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

gods are the ideas of them the fractally attuned responses and orientations towards them fractally, an entire orientation held in the moment

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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and the more you speak with others who speak of Krishna, the more you interact with what you call Krishna, the more reality Krishna takes on for you movement makes Krisha real, just as Merleau-Ponty would said movement through the world makes it real to you

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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that is not to say the world doesn’t exist! or that you are making it up willy-nilly as you make through the world, the reality of the tree is made real real you you bump into the corners of reality and have it take shape

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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you make Krishna real to you, even though it could be said Krishna was already real in the moment he was communicated to you gods are real, and they are not "simply" the ideas told to you they are reflections of the entire reality that supported their coming into being

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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gods are made up, but so is the vision of the tree i had in my head made up i could be hallucinating, or it could be blurry it may turn out my image of the tree is supported by actually moving forward and knocking on the tree and finding something solid

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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likewise, my image of my god may be supported by moving as if they were real, and interacting with the reality they hold as i talk to other humans about them, or even pray

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

to hold reality in emotional or truth space is not an inferior kind of reality at all https://t.co/MQvoyzdGya

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

« Truth is what u can independently verify yourself. Reality is what others can collaboratively verify » emotions are true, facts are real

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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not "merely reducible" to atoms the same way dostoevsky is not reducible to letters or medicine to physics that is such a strange view as to be a permanent trauma mode one im familiar with https://t.co/2OnGkgUk88

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecool• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth "feeling something solid" could also be a different kind of sensory hallucination but that's another layer to the story

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@CountJ0ecool lol and how’s that? v curious

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecool• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth your sense of touch is no more unfiltered than your sense of sight compare the sensation of feeling something with your fingertips vs feeling it with your elbow there are optical illusions, I imagine there are also touch illusions https://t.co/JSYFJMC56T

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecool• over 3 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@AskYatharth "tactile illusions", apparently https://t.co/cZKQHsdZ2m but all of our senses are just signals provided by bodily apparati, and those are known to malfunction occasionally our direct sensory inputs are downstream of, not equal to, the territory https://t.co/7GudgCHZIY

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecool• over 3 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@AskYatharth except, of course, that personally-experienced qualia (derived from sensory input?) is the only real thing that matters https://t.co/ZrVfgADAkM

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

that is not to say the world doesn’t exist! or that you are making it up willy-nilly as you make through the world, the reality of the tree is made real real you you bump into the corners of reality and have it take shape

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