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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago

If you don’t switch to hard mode by 35, life switches to impossible mode for you by 45. Middle-class privilege + mediocre intelligence + decent strategic thinking = incentives are heavily loaded in favor of getting addicted to playing in easy mode by like 19

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Tom is in SF 😎🚀@tdoggyholholover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr How would you define easy vs hard mode here

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1/22/2022
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arjun@arj_shivover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr For those under 35, what's a good question to ask yourself if you're in hard mode so you can catch yourself before you make this mistake?

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rachel@stubborncuriasover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Is this an anti-mediocre take?

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @stubborncurias

@stubborncurias No pro. Excellence is easy mode

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr @stubborncurias What is hard mode?

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Soham Das, CFA@sohamdasover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Venkatesh please do a proper long form thread on this

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Alexis Gallagher@alexisgallagherover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr This is fun. Let me play. If you stay in clever strategic optimizer mode until you’re 35, you’ll you’ll be locked into drone automaton mode from 35 onward.

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Lance@4d3d3d3d3over 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Is this tweet about choosing when to have kids?

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Brin Paulsen@brinpaulsenover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Interesting how many people in the replies see these 'modes' as directly related to employment...🙃

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G 🌄@grantadeverover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr why don't you just @ me next time

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Hard mode is gamer lingo, but the default examples in my mind are: 1. Seeing the path to easy straight A’s/4.0 gpa but taking the hard subjects that actually interest you and getting Bs/Cs 2. Studying the subject with enough interest that you don’t have to study for the test

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Plenty of adult life decisions have the same choice architecture — basically bucking the Lebowski theorem but for humans… bothering with a task that’s harder than hacking the reward function attached to it. Choosing not to hack even though you are capable of it.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Money, dating, fame, status, publications, awards (all the way up to Nobel) there’s always a reward function you can hack. Hard mode is when by default you choose not to. But it has to be a choice. Not having or understanding the option is clueless mode.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

I haven’t read this book, but I like the title… proper hard-mode signaling. I don’t know if it loves up to the title though https://t.co/frSxQQH2Sx

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Hard mode is not pain-fetishizing or ritual monastic discipline mode though. If someone else creates it for you, it’s not really a hard mode but a kind of religion mode. Hard mode isn’t so much a choreographed structure of soul-cleansing difficulty as it is a way of seeing.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

It’s like having always noticing the hacks but rarely using them, and positioning yourself so you don’t get played by the people who do use them. You avoid using them not out of any misplaced sense of honor or fair play, but because life gets nihilistically dull if you do.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Fitness is perhaps the clearest example. There really is no point “cheating” your way to records/awards or target weights etc. And the impossible mode that kicks in if you neglect it enough is irreversible slide into middle-aged chronic ill-health

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Oh yeah, I remember seeing this now. Possibly where I unconsciously picked up the idea from. @TheZvi version is basically the same concept.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Ignoring the temptations of Goodhart’s law systematically basically. Which means you have to learn to see them reliably first.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Easy mode is actually very hard if you have low tolerance for arbitrary bullshit because that’s what you have to get good at. Like getting good at Jeopardy at top level is about buzzer reaction speed apparently not trivia knowledge.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Some similarities with “do the work” but that’s usually about piously pursuing a specific goal with a Noble Heart and True Spirit. Hard mode is less directed, and has no particular spiritual prescription attached.

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

Several people mentioning #75hard so I looked that up. Definitely not what I’m on about. The point here is indefinite partial immunity to temptations of easy mode. My version of hard mode can work with lazy/slow lane. The hard part is saying no and doing nothing a lot of the time

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Venkatesh Rao ☀️@vgrover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

If you don’t want much and aren’t very ambitious, hard mode can be pretty easy in absolute terms. If you have lots of appetite for life, hard mode will be absolutely hard and the temptations of easy hacks ver high. Easy to be honest if you want $10k. Hard if you want $10 billion.

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˚♡⋆mimi ˚♡⋆。☆∴@mimi10v3over 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Yeah, except that exercise can be fun if you don't take it too seriously- joyful exercise shifts the rest of your life into easier mode

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L. Amber O'Hearn 🛡 Right here, right now@ambimorphover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr I've been addicted to hard mode for a long time. Sometimes it seems like a mistake. Maybe I could really push the needle on something meaningful and important for myself and others if I'd just let myself run with strengths more often.

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Brian Lui@brianluidogover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Your "hard mode" concept has some parallels with this https://t.co/Ao2nE1Lel1

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will ye@will__yeover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Good luck getting into t14 law schools with Bs and Cs…

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vr00n@vr00nover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Guess I need to learn how to surf 🏄

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zico (wassie, verse)@zico_ethover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr reminds me of jerzy gregorek saying hard choices, easy life. easy choices, hard life.

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ManiCurious@manicuriousover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr Funnily there is a parallel in ML :) If you train it to perform a "harder" task like predicting the next word for all sentences on the internet, it becomes good at many downstream easy tasks like classifying sentiments (maybe escaping goodharts law)

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Daniel Coεmeta McNichol@dnlmcover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr this at all related to this? https://t.co/jf54dJxYfv

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Suhail@Suhailover 3 years ago

I wonder if the cultural change of HN is the shift from hardcore hackers/founders to a steady growth in jaded hackers/founders who increasingly embody r/antiwork now.

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Mac Budkowski@MacBudkowskiover 3 years ago
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@vgr "Easy choices, hard life. Hard choices, easy life."

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🔆 Raccoon Girl 🫀❄️✨@CrisprChildover 3 years ago
Replying to @vgr

@vgr This is the secret of why trans women dominate their fields so often

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