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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 3 years ago

loving concept of "modal confusion": 1. try to solve being mode with having mode (objectification, eg trying to get love by *having* sex) 2. try to solve having mode with being mode (spiritual bypassing = "too heavenly to be any earthly good") (@vervaeke_john➔@JimRuttShow pt2)

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 3 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

Vervaeke talks about how:  having mode = I-It  being mode = I-Thou in Buber's terms he doesn't mention it for whatever reason but I'm sure he knows these modes map onto the hemispheres since he's talked with McGilchrist in depth https://t.co/fZGtK6pA43

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 3 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@jim_rutt asks the excellent Q "what about doing?" Vervaeke answers: doing has 2 modes:  work (having: real goals, trying to actually change something about the world)  play (being: game has goals, but you don't want to shortcut them and just declare yourself winner)

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 3 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

so modal confusion here would be either: - treating a game like it has to be won at all costs - treating something that matters like it's just an attachment to be transcended eg Buddha referring to his son as "fetter" James Carse's Finite & Infinite Games is relevant here

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 3 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

I have the sense that @vervaeke_john & @m_ashcroft would have some very interesting conversations to have, as the Expanding Awareness stuff dovetails quite richly with a lot of what I'm hearing in this podcast

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