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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

It’s not an “predictive statement to be verified by empirical means.” /That/ is that rationalist mistake. It’s a view—an adopted perspective that takes on meaning and truth by the fact of you seeing things that way. https://t.co/zOhxpyf8fn

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

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It’s to notice *the way in which* you were already suffering by now owning to it, and how this makes owning up to it not seem so bad; it’s not saying you were already suffering, or that it is not worsened.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

@MasterTimBlais calls it a statement of faith, or reverse-infohazard. Other people in the replies were saying how the statement itself is false, but useful to believe. https://t.co/EOnzfXeJGe

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

It’s not that the statement is false but useful. It’s that we’re not talking about truth in that sense at all. It’s more: here is one POV from which to view reality, and if you perceive from this place, something changes.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

Noticing the way in which X is true doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s more a Buddhist practice of seeing how there is a sense in seeing things that way, just as there would be in seeing things the other way.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

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“That red is green.” “Huh, I see how it could be that way.” “Life is already always suffering.” “Huh, I see how it could be that way.” “Life is already always spacious happiness.” “Huh, I see how it could be that way.” The last two are not contradictory in the least.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

They’re all platforms or POVs to stand from. If you look at life *as if* you were begininglessly experiencing happiness, you will better perceive and notice it. There was a way in which is was true.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

This looking at “the way in which” X is true rather than whether X is true is really looking at emptiness and form.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

How “not X” is kind of empty. Even saying “red is not green” is kind of empty, in that it points to the conceptual confusion of having such categories in the first place and thinking they are dual.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

Esoteric buddhism aside, “lived view” is a simple thing to understand—to see life as it was one way, and to better notice how it was.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

“Living the view” is the term Aro g'ter uses, and for good reason. They usually pick vivid, self-evident words for otherwise very unusual concepts. (Might be broader in usage than them; unsure.)

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

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keywords: Gendlin's litany, owning up to what is true doesn’t make it worse; emptiness, form; the way in which; lived view, living the view; Aro g'ter

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• almost 4 years ago

Replying to @AskYatharth

“This is not a truth; it a choice to see things this way.” https://t.co/mM5EtkmS9T

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11/26/2021