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if you're not in touch with the actual generators of your beliefs and motives, convos about evidence/reasons/justifications can't be experienced as anything other than someone trying to socially coerce you into compliance with how they want you to act
there's a sorta effortless way in which ones behavior can change when one learns info that critically effects the chains of motivations and beliefs that are actually behind ones actions very diff from the experience of social reasons https://t.co/p74XlZxtAY
add on that a lot of readily available frames/narratives/forms available for one to justify themselves exclude many important aspects of being human, if the social justification machine has it's hooks in you, you're "forced" into ignoring actual beliefs/motives
In favor of confabulated ones that can pass a sniff check in your local social context. "local" is key. Yes there's societal versions of this, but on the ground it's beaten into people by families and schools https://t.co/PtqbLWFAcw
it's so disgustingly simple. If teachers and parents don't like a reason you give, they said no. You learn your freedom to act in the world is limited by how well you can justify the actions you take/want to take this drives a wedge between you and your actual desires
it drives a wedge between you and your actual beliefs why know what you really want when you know the truth won't be accepted? Why understand why you act the way you do when such an understanding will make it harder to tell an authority pleasing story?
(those are rhetorical questions to explore the historical reasons why you might be divorced from your beliefs & desires. I think self knowledge is TOTALLY worth it, and I could talk a lot about how understanding myself more has helped me a shit ton in many dimensions)
sometimes I see a twisted version of this insight: "people are always confabulating about their motives because their true motives are nasty and base. So even though they might give good rational reasons for their behavior, they're motivated by Brutish human nature" log off mate
conflation of Reasons (social justification to take an action) with reasons (why, you in fact did something) also damages your ability to learn about people who do things you think are bad this applies both to your chosen political outgroup, and to personal relationships
(applies to yourself as well) If you don't like that you do X, it'll feel yucky exploring why you in fact do X, because it'll feel like you're "making a case to others why you should be allowed to continue doing X" this prevents meaningful understanding that could lead to change