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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

Please Take My Advice, because I Won't Be Using It

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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why does this happen,? so many of the top coaches, healers i know they can help others, they do. not themselves. why?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Maybe because they accurately perceive that the solution will stop working, or won’t solve the actual problem. https://t.co/ZYBZwizq8W

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Maybe because they accurately perceive the solution will get tainted. Maybe it already has been for them. https://t.co/mA2jWp1rtG

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

I call this “tainting.” My feeling of it is it becomes tainted with coercion. It becomes something I have to do in X contexts with Y result. It’s not fun, playful, and I forget the felt sense of why I wanted to do it before.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Maybe because the problem their mind is implicitly expecting the solution to solve is something like “feel ok” and they accurately perceive the solution won’t fix that. https://t.co/nkZ37n0bbi

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

@CurziRose Thank you. I have to realise it’s not worth it. Not like I imagined anyway. It may still be worth it afterward to do it. Out of a much more honest sense of what may come.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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They need to perceive the problem as just a practical problem, and expect the solution to do less. https://t.co/6tgVgM1kuP

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

@SunnyDisposish1 You’re saying that: Perceiving the problem in others can help see the problem as just a problem. Whereas implementing the solution on oneself gets blocked by all sorts of factors on the “change something about oneself” route.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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rephrased: They need to ~perceive it differently. Their mind was implicitly reframing/expecting it to solve the problem of feeling ok. But it won’t! It’ll just solve a tiny practical problem. Which may help.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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They may be alienated completely from trying to “solve” anything by themselves. In which they are acutely feeling a lack of sovereignty, and a sense of over-constriction by their super-ego telling them to “GET BETTER. GET BETTER” and they just don’t wanna 😣

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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*For the problem in their head/heart* (the one about not feeling sovereign enough), they are accurately perceiving the “solution” to their “problem” won’t fix it. https://t.co/Wi6CXD9Pyc

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

it’s one way to understand what teenagers are doing in the world they’re trying to get their environment to sound louder they their own head they’re trying to become their own person https://t.co/1wH7RwgiCl

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Another reply of mine calling out alienation, and perceiving problems as merely practical problems in other, but with themselves, encountering alienation. https://t.co/XAaXC8OUj6

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

@BirdOfPlay_ Maybe. Just maybe: the ones who are helping are alienated from solving the problems themselves.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Alienation rules the world around me. https://t.co/nfDwiS04jJ

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

@BirdOfPlay_ This is my favourite explanation by far. Alienation rules the world around me. https://t.co/SbSWEZOdBZ

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Upgrading this answer to top-level. https://t.co/dGLPeRax89

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8/18/2021
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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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The idea of *making desires real for people,* leaving them psychologically changed, having the desire move through their system and the system synchronise around itself and materially change These are real problems. https://t.co/Bk25UFMPgp

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

What rites of passage do is let everyone know socially and you psychologically: Hey, there’s something different now. Your body is pretty much the same as it was before. But it will be responded to differently to it now.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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In some sense, if you already succeeded at this—making them want to execute the change—then they would be doing this. The fact that you haven’t—the fact that you haven’t streamlined, aligned their subconscious enough—is fact of you have more of it left to do.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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You don’t get change for free. Even if it isn’t a real problem to you, it still is a real one. https://t.co/M4bN4adxga

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

That’s the core of it. These aren’t “real” problems to rats who think about value creation or making the pie bigger. They’re the old problems of fighting against other humans to jostle for existing stuff.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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You will be blocked if you don’t respect this as a real problem. Your progress bars will feel stuck. https://t.co/DZhuNBfapw

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

There are *real* problems being solved there. Real problems of motivation, frustration, timing, etc, that if you don’t respect, you will not solve. You cannot solve problems you do not respect.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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This is also one of the most sensible, straightforward answers to me. > of course it would be easier if you had a friend on the outside guiding you, with a map in hand. Even if it’s the same map you have on the ground https://t.co/jvxPR7TRk7

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Having a second person is just valuable. For so many reasons. - you can let go, let them do the work of tracking the pins etc, and just focus on feeling the felt sense e.g. all my work on self-Motivational Interviewing, etc.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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just space for us to express uncertainty and vulnerability and unsurety, since someone else is now taking care of the thing previously, we felt the need to “hang on to it,” and this prevented us from touching our actual felt sense lest we let go

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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- there is a sense of conviction and collective sense-making, they are “holding on” to your conviction for you https://t.co/Au4qsnDhJs

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 5 years ago

This is one of the most subtle and underrated things about having a mentor/coach. They will often say things you already knew. But somehow *it feels different after.* Because what matters is conviction. Not just knowledge, but your conviction in it.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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- there is a sense of encouragement and felt safety of love e.g. when babies are learning to walk, moms can just . . . encourage the baby, and that helps whenever the baby becomes unsure, demotivated, she can just feel loved again (cf The Inner Game of Tennis)

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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because not feeling loved makes us doubt, makes us question why do this, makes it feel unsafe to do more such actions https://t.co/VYbziKjMps

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Forth ❤️‍🔥@forthrighterabout 4 years ago

@AskYatharth doing stuff (moving, responding, working) isn't worth the effort without a context (pursuing a goal, helping a friend, etc). When you wake you sound like you need a daily reminder of your worthy context

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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feeling loved is like a Friendship Pillow to do more of the project https://t.co/RoerOBKYtT

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

what im saying is: friendships are like fluffy pillows under your butt they keep the ride smooth and vibey even when you encounter bumps in the layer above frenship pillows https://t.co/pA90QTdvFC

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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also, it’s like a maybe the advice isn’t necessarily bad it’s your relationship to taking the advice that is broken https://t.co/UFrRdz3KFh

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

i asked about this here which is like a—why am I so good at giving advice I am not taking well . . because it's not bad advice—it’s just that your relationship to taking advice is a bit broken https://t.co/YAtCn8knTW

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9/2/2021
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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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it’s almost like you recognise that taking your advice (for you) would mean taking a tortured version of the thing, where “you have to”, instead of for real (drama) https://t.co/x19lLkNxxy

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

There’s a similar version of this going on with Discipline, Happiness, Motivation—all of those. We have a tortured relationship with the Thing. And so we know, to naïvely chase after it, 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘶𝘴, would not be right. https://t.co/m6tNs91xE0

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 3 years ago
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because applying any advice without thinking about it is hard. especially your own gotta actually have containers to apply it. conversations with other people—when they give you the advice—do that, but who does that for advice with yourself https://t.co/sDGqOLLi75

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanalmost 3 years ago

but sometimes it's more a matter of simply not taking the time to apply your own wisdom to your own situation. your friend came to you asking for help, maybe, but you're too stuck in the weeds the solution: make an appointment with your own wisdom

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 3 years ago
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this is why im such a big fan of journalling on twitter. it’s me giving advice to myself. it’s using my wisdom in the fullest way possible https://t.co/GMtjcMjUXi

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago

right now, though, i need to keep tweeting to make myself real to me. it’s how i find myself. the thread out of the labyrinth of the false self https://t.co/jhowlZzjag

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