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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago

Reminder to tomorrow-Visa to make a thread about how this video changed my life (approach to mistakes and failure, and the expectations and feelings around them) https://t.co/yHoNg9I3K2

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 7 years ago

this is true regardless of how you choose to define success; whether we're talking abt climbing the corporate ladder or being an artist. I'm reminded of Vic Wooten talking about how he deliberately practices wrong notes (worth watching even if non-musical) https://t.co/5cywxUyepm

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

OK so some context – Vic Wooten is a *phenomenal* bass player, considered by many to be the best in the world. He was raised by a musical family, and has a "music is a language, you should learn via osmosis" type of philosophy that I personally find very profound and affirming

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

The chromatic scale is when you literally play every single note on the piano or guitar. It's like reciting the numbers or the alphabet. People typically use it for mindless finger practice. Wooten argues that we should LISTEN to the music in these boring, mechanical sounds https://t.co/WyD4Nzx53v

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Now here he is demonstrating what it's like to play the chromatic scale, *musically*, over music. Just witnessing this blew my mind. It's like someone reciting the alphabet in a moving, poetic way. Harder than that, since some notes are "wrong". Wooten doesn't believe in "wrong" https://t.co/gxAoUEgbYW

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

"When there's a note that doesn't work, there's a note on either side of the note that DOES work." NOBODY TELLS YOU THIS. "It's always easy! but we make it hard!". "A minute ago this note didn't work, but now it does. I can *erase* the wrong note by *making music*." Amazing https://t.co/mlhCU45PDU

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

It gets wilder. An audience member requests "can you play ONLY the wrong notes?" HE DOES IT, THE MADMAN Victor Wooten does not accept your rules about what is right and wrong in music. His ear is so refined, his feeling so deft, that he can make music that's "wrong" yet musical https://t.co/UTZm3upMai

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

If you didn't already think "this man is a sorcerer", he then goes on to perfectly role-play a sloppy show-off amateur musician! "It's the feel that makes the note work. Get the feel right and you can play anything." This man's galaxy-brain relationship with music *awes* me https://t.co/kgDOKvYAO9

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

If you're wondering, this is how he sounds when he isn't deliberately playing wrong notes. and using a loop pedal to play multiple different parts at once. his brain-to-fingers-to-instrument pathway is so strong and clear, he's basically just fooling around having fun w/o thought https://t.co/2nkI4nONIK

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

the thing thing I love about him so much is not just his genius, but his nurturing, encouraging approach to teaching. he isn't trying to impress you with how good he is (he knows how good he is, and he knows you know too). he just loves music and wants to help you love it too

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

turns out he was holding back in that last vid https://t.co/8SDRzrle15

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

if by now you're guessing he'd also have some meaningful, interesting and wholesome things to say about *learning itself*, you'd be absolutely correct https://t.co/V0PYfDQKPi

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 7 years ago

@selfprime @webdevMason Btw Mason I think you’d enjoy this - Victor Wooten, musical genius and incredible teacher + communicator, on a healthy, “natural language” approach to learning. So wholesome and encouraging, “learn-via-osmosis” school of thought https://t.co/w39HOW2A7C

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I've been digging his book (in audiobook form) where he lays all of this stuff out. Here's a thread where I gave some initial thoughts: https://t.co/mDiK4nZjQ5

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago

@alifeofmovement Ooh I'm going to pick up The Music Lesson because there's definitely a music↔spirit connection for me.

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

all mistakes are contextual, and context is something that you can change finite players play within boundaries, infinite players play *with* boundaries https://t.co/XrYlTx06Rg

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago

@visakanv Herbie Hancock describing a similar realization he had early on playing with Miles Davis, and "right in the middle of Miles Davis' solo, I played the wrong chord. Sounded like a big mistake! ...and Miles paused for a second... then he played some notes that made my chord right." https://t.co/NsDiTfdH5g

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

learn to be ok with being wrong https://t.co/lst1urV6Cx

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago
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ugh he's so good in so many ways, what a genius, what a natural, what a teacher. "we teach you pitch when we should be teaching you context", oh my god https://t.co/pH2hKo2ynG

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago
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I truly can't with this man. Galaxy brain shit. Musical magician 🤯 https://t.co/Mtufs9qcKc

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Miles Davis saying the same thing https://t.co/2kEIA8Lm51

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 4 years ago
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“you can make every note work with every chord [...] rather than say this note is good or bad, it’s more, this note hasn’t found it’s consequence yet, or this note is in the wrong context [...] if it feels right, then it's probably fine." – @jacobcollier https://t.co/7ePxG3sv8E

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

you see how this applies not just to music, but to almost all mistakes, all "failures". you just need to find a resolution, you just need to adapt the context. if you make music with the wrong notes, they're not wrong anymore https://t.co/3TIzPyPP1k

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 4 years ago

lesson here: anything you do - however mediocre, tedious, clunky, imperfect - can be a stepping stone, a foundation, a springboard for something more wonderful https://t.co/S2IAyHmclJ

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 4 years ago
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become a connoisseur of your own mistakes https://t.co/Carh8Bl6Qa

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

deliberate use of dissonant or "wrong" notes to achieve a desired effect https://t.co/X5h4dIYqLU

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

nice thread digging into the specifics of what wooten is doing https://t.co/pgMQ12OmPa

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 3 years ago
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delicious use of a “wrong” note, by @evntyd https://t.co/qsk7ZeeJtz

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 2 years ago
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“Anytime I hit, it is correct.” - Dizzy Gillespie https://t.co/JxjrIbLz0g

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
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you can erase the ‘wrong’ notes by making music https://t.co/o5UEQ0ooXD

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @jacobcollier https://t.co/FHBrZ7fcjZ

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanabout 5 years ago

But internalizing the bit from Victor Wooten made a huge difference! There's no wrong notes, just… notes that take a bit more ummm explaining to do if someone walks in on you. https://t.co/RxPPPz64u0

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsover 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv i have the worst ear, this actually sounds better to me than when he does it the professional way 😭

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv This is why I am only really interested in improvising when I play, because the recovery from mistakes is so graceful and fun

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv > "someone reciting the alphabet in a moving, poetic way" https://t.co/IO7K71TuMs

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Herbie Hancock describing a similar realization he had early on playing with Miles Davis, and "right in the middle of Miles Davis' solo, I played the wrong chord. Sounded like a big mistake! ...and Miles paused for a second... then he played some notes that made my chord right." https://t.co/NsDiTfdH5g

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftabout 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv I love this so much.

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 4 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv this is my utopian belief: I think there's a way of listening, receptivity, creativity that can make everything fit together beautifully in my more cosmic esoteric moments I wonder if a sufficiently potent individual could play this role for all humanity, instantaneously

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 4 years ago
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@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv this is maybe what the Jesus story means

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv This thread needs, as its comic version, to be directed to this thread, where people are finding the natural musicality of people talking and then adding instrumentation. https://t.co/Dmyr8hsgkO

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