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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

No system of morality is ethical. (and this is fine) https://t.co/z79qAFOnKL

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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What I mean by this is any form of morality will necessarily distort. Form necessarily distorts.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Humans need form, because they need a legible, systemically shared and enforceable set of norms to carry out social functions—that’s what morality is. Ethics is more discriminating. https://t.co/zOSBWYgXXP

yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

What morality is is not truth, but a way to get social coordination done. https://t.co/zbOjuHjdpM

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Ethics is more discriminating because it can be. It’s an individual thing. It’s not trying to, and could not historically do the same thing as morality, and we can’t hold it against morality the constraints its working with.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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What is true is not always considered “moral.” And so people will try to (morally) beat the shit out of you.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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They’re scared if they let you go around spouting this truth, the action associated with that truth becomes endorsed too, and that’s dangerous. This is a legit fear to have, because to utter a truth is not neutral—it is a move in a language game. https://t.co/eGIQMsWvQy

yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

To say something is a pragmatic act, even if it is true.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Tantra will tell you the truth. That’s its approach. To go to the truth and through it, into what must be done once you know it. Dzogchen will tell you the truth. They will work with uttermost emptiness, and find nuance among it. https://t.co/Q6opuiUR2F

yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

Dojos literally have explicit belts. You get punched in the face if you’re sorted wrong. They’re not afraid of inequality. Tantra isn’t either. It could tell me the blindlingly obvious truth, 𝘸𝘦’𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘭, while maintaining the emptiness of that too. https://t.co/5yAjUudFX3

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Example: consent. High tantric consent is recognising consent ≠ yes, consent is not even anything necessarily conscious. It’s something else entirely. https://t.co/pL2FoN2oNa

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Sometimes someone can say yes and feel yes and it’s still not consent. Sometimes someone doesn’t say no and feels doubt and yet it is consent.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Of course, you cannot trust most people claiming to do this if they find it useful to claim to be doing this. Espouse tantric consent to college students and you’ll get . . . a lot of a mass.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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You get enough exploitation in (most famously Western) tantric communities as it is, and that’s *with* all their specifically adapted social technologies like vows and cultural memory to deal with the specific dangers of tantric ethics.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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I wanted to be told the truth, and so I searched for the postrats, and found tantra, and work with that. It was an individual choice born of my individual needs. https://t.co/36h0ltDlyu

yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

What defines postrats in part is postrats can talk about anything. They will move to and *through* the truth, into what must be done with it. https://t.co/sDETkjunqv

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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No system of morality is ethical, and that’s ok.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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How to cultivate more emptiness and truth in your ethics? If form necessarily distorts, what must we do?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Alternate forms, feel into both how an action would be right and how it would be wrong. You’ll find both sides have a rightness and wrongness to them. Both really often do have a right and nuanced rightness to discover. https://t.co/a8WzFzDSHh

yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

Too often, in questions of conflict, there is one side, and the other. We have a very firm grasp of one side, and a responsiveness to the ways it feels right and wrong, and not so much the other. So we overshadow the other. https://t.co/vwgWdZDmnv

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Often there’s a third, and not-even-in-the-frame side.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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Be skeptical-by-default of anyone invoking emptiness of ethics, while recognising it is some of the highest forms of ethical thinking. https://t.co/pL2FoN2oNa

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 4 years ago

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TODO: reference king fu panda scroll tweet

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