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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago

A thing my ex-boss got me to meditate on (not literally, but I think about it a lot) is that product-market fit heals and forgives almost everything. The highest order bit is almost the only thing that matters by a long shot, to a dramatic and unintuitive degree https://t.co/JtNh1rlCq2

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

there’s this entire genre of interesting content along the lines of ā€œso strange/wild/weird how this successful person/company didn’t care about Xā€ https://t.co/93EXXMnaWz

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

You can insert your own examples. ā€œIt’s ridiculous how [[successful business]] fails at [[surprisingly basic thing]]ā€ the useful Q my boss would ask me: is it actually ridiculous? Or is it only ridiculous within your model of reality, which expects things to be a certain way?

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Approached from a slightly different angle, reality *seems* unrealistic all the time because it deviates from our model of reality but what is real is already so https://t.co/1r9nRWxEQx

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

If reality seems unrealistic, it’s because you were holding on to a false idea about how reality is. Reality isn’t unrealistic; your expectations were Reality isn’t unrealistic, your expectations were Reality isn’t unrealistic, your expectations were Reality isn’t unrealisti https://t.co/Ygl39kad2Z

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Circling back to the original tweet- not to single it out, but it’s illustrative: the critical life lesson here is that you can be ā€œunbelievably idioticā€ and still win big. Do you realize this? Do you feel it in your bones? Because lots of people don’t realize this

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Lots of people think ā€œI will be successful if I become less stupid, less incompetent, less fail, less embarrassing...ā€ This is almost entirely back-asswards, an illusion caused by media bias, narrative bias, selection bias, halo effects

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I am trying to help people see that they can be much more successful than they realize, imagine or expect, because it’s their expectations, imagination and models of reality that are miscalibrated there is a silly naĆÆvetĆ© to this endeavour but it’s also very rewarding

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

We I talk about this practically every time we meet even now, because it’s so alien & deviant from mainstream understanding. It’s like breathing water instead of air. But with each breath you take, you become more powerful, bc you’re operating with a more accurate model of world

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Scott Adams is an annoying asshole who understands this one thing right and so he can afford to basically get everything else wrong A lot of good people get everything right except this, which is so frustrating and upsetting to see Exboss would encourage me to let it go but 😤

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

My understanding of this at the heart of what allows me to basically tweet for a living. It’s a pretty mediocre living but it’s freedom - freedom that a lot of smart angry dudes wish they had but don’t bc they’re too busy being right about everything else except this

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

You can be smart about a thousand things that don’t matter or you can be smart about like the 5 things that do some will say ā€œoh why not be smart about 1005 thingsā€ but in a sense the 6th thing is a distraction from the first thing it’s endlessly complicated of course

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

In a way it’s a lil hubristic to tweet about this, but all communication is a lil hubristic because it’s intrinsically lossy. Exboss and I have been talking about this for almost a decade (damn) and we are both still learning how strange and counterintuitive this is

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

The shape of one of our theories - which we argue about - is that it’s unintuitive because it runs against human moral instincts. We want to treat everyone fairly, everyone matters, etc. And in a sense yes of course they do. But value isn’t distributed that way

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Probably like 10 of my tweets out of 151,000 are responsible for 60% of the value of the @visakanv account. I can’t actually point you to them with confidence because the truth of it makes me uncomfortable. The truth is always uncomfortable

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

this is blowing my own mind as I tweet this, this is how unintuitive this truth is- every time I meditate on it it delivers me value. My success in life is almost directly a function of the degree to which I am willing to face the discomfort of the truths I don’t like

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Here’s a truth that I’ve obviously been avoiding: hardly anybody gives a fuck about my 2nd ebook. Going by preorders in relation to marketing, people are interested in Unlearning Coercion than in Introspect. Introspect is like the album the artist loves that the audience doesn’t

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I do personally believe there is an intangible beautiful value in caring about things that don’t have market value, I’m very sentimental and romantic like that. I will tilt at this windmill forever. But also I don’t want to be a total sucker

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Indulgence from a position of strength is aesthetic, beautiful, etc. Indulgence from a position of weakness is pathetic many trad accounts on here are aware of this in letter but almost none of them embody its spirit, which is a painful hypocrisy I wouldn’t wish on my enemies

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

heh. it’s actually really stupid of me to give a fuck about like, whether people think I’m narcissistic or shameless or anything of that sort - it actually, quite literally, Does Not Matter. it’s me acting out some trauma from my teenage days. I didn’t expect this to hit me here

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

But you see what meditating on the nature of reality does for you? It doesn’t spare your feelings lmao. What is true is already so. You go in trying to understand Facebook and you end up getting personally attacked and having your ass kicked by your own truth-seeking mind

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Thanks Visa https://t.co/2Y4DqATRfg

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 5 years ago

me when I get my ass kicked https://t.co/flFD4VDaAF

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

periodic reminder that product market fit is not intuitive https://t.co/gt1o3K2RvN

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

https://t.co/xXO03mRiAd

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

great product with absolute shit comments section that users put in tremendous effort to try and Macgyver a solution to https://t.co/CTfFqrGCkx

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

yea https://t.co/yQUsVIH5Sq https://t.co/QwRs5hwUyu

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

yea https://t.co/U4Oms2Ldm9

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

yea https://t.co/qhHkS6uC3I

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

yea people will continue to insist on learning the wrong lessons from this, probably because it's easier to be smug than successful https://t.co/nvSQlvKetQ

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Guy HAS FINISHED WRITING THE BOOK (BETA)@nosilverv• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv 'wow seems like the bar for being an incredibly rich man is actually not that high? guess i'll dunk on them for failing to meet my childish hero expectations rather than becoming incredibly wealthy myself lol'

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 2 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

yea https://t.co/1Q92igzEiW

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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfogleman• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv fwiw visa i am so excited about introspect!

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4/15/2021
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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfogleman• over 4 years ago
Replying to @tasshinfogleman

@visakanv although now i'm going to preorder unlearning coercion too! šŸ˜Ž

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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfogleman• over 4 years ago
Replying to @tasshinfogleman

@visakanv p.s. it's really important to me that you follow your creativity wherever it leads you, even if that leads you away from one project and towards another. i'll be a fan of whatever you do and others will too! ā¤ļø

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @tasshinfogleman

@tasshinfogleman haha don't worry I don't really have a choice in this

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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfogleman• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv fair 🤣 i just try to love on you in my own way whenever i can! ā¤ļø

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4/15/2021
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Malcolm Ocean īØ€šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø@Malcolm_Ocean• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Unlearning Coercion is 3rd ebook? In any case, whatever you're doing under the heading of "unlearning coercion," I'd recommend you check out Perceptual Control Theory. Ooh—actually! …let's have a recorded convo where I share my take on how it's deeply relevant!

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Malcolm Ocean īØ€šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø@Malcolm_Ocean• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv curious how this looks now

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean ha will write after our consult

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Malcolm Ocean īØ€šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø@Malcolm_Ocean• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv great. very curious how this sort of thing evolves

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5/16/2022
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Patrick McKenzie@patio11• over 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv As someone who has one essay which probably did more economically than my entire pre-Stripe career combined: I can relate.

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 4 years ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 they should build a monument to that essay. You’re just the lovely nerd who happened to write it, a footnote in its Wikipedia page šŸ˜‚ā¤ļø

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yatharth ą¼ŗą¼’ą¼»@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 @visakanv when you say ā€œmore economically,ā€ you mean in terms of generating value for its beneficiaries in the world? (assuming it’s the salary negotiation one) https://t.co/LmgqroJFfY

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junk wants you 🫵 at scamp aka SEAcamp 2@zrkrlc• about 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv example out in the wild https://t.co/zyxUIgnsNz

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7/20/2022
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Imp@imperialauditor• about 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I'm still struggling to internalize this one, but how can I apply it? what is the personal analogue of product market fit?

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yatharth ą¼ŗą¼’ą¼»@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv conversely, with moderate product market fit, "everything else" becomes really important and determined whether you stay alive

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3/17/2024