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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

How badly do you wanna go to mars?"It is commonly theorized that in the nonindustrialized world, bacterial contamination from soil or feces brings traces of B12 to plant foods in sufficient amounts to prevent B12 deficiency"https://t.co/zwndJ60vlO

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Tired: Simulated human stomach and intestines to study IBS related diseases.Wired: Simulated cow stomach and intestines to be able to produce cobalamin, L-ascorbic acid, and methane on mars so we don't have to eat feces.https://t.co/AHbo8AzVbB

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

Here's a video that shows the inside of a live cow's digestive system.https://t.co/C2zeiOHPUmhttps://t.co/23n4m624Rl

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

According to a bunch of sources listed in this vegan subreddit, most cows are also supplimented with B12. https://t.co/KK6CJ5aQQJ

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I guess the only logical answer is to create bacterial bio-reactors using 3d printed viruses that inject certain machinery into bacteria that tailor them for production of raw nutrients.https://t.co/nHmfIROivM

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Nutraloaf. Yum.https://t.co/cElQN8pKpV

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Seems to me that living in space for an extended period of time might require the manufacturing of pickled liceloaf, and having all the duplicAnts have the 'no taste' trait.https://t.co/c3ZSSpXL0Hhttps://t.co/fjo2mFXVTa

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

Still having a lot of luck with 500mg Taurine helping with focus and clarity.I noticed it interact with my taste / pallet in an interesting way. Does anybody else notice changes in what they enjoy when taking it?Please DM me about it so not to pollute other's ideas.

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Some of those citations are BS."Chronic inflammatory bowel diseases such as Crohn’s Disease affect the ileum and impair B12 absorption. These diseases are only seen in people who eat animal products and they improve when meat is removed from the diet." https://t.co/hzV1KLR025

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

More appropriate to say:These diseases often occur when there isn't enough fiber in diet, and western meat eating trends avoid the fibrous material in organ meats (collagen), so there is a lower production of anti-inflammatory SCFAs like butyrate.https://t.co/grcrKwgShC

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago

Haggis is illegal in america.https://t.co/DPicGZhvk7Largely because of the difficulty of industrial farming causing contaminates to enter the animal's lungs.https://t.co/MX962fmb0b

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Piss vegans off by talking about collagen as source of fiber.Piss carnivores off by talking about fermenting stuff to make B12 and removing oxalates/phytic acid.Piss people who eat food off by talking about how hibernating bears live for months without food.

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wanna pretend I'm vegan and talk to one of those people who talk about the length of the digestive tract and the size of or canine teeth as evidence that we should eat meat...And piss them off by pointing out how that just suggests we're predisposed to be cannibals.😥

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I was talking to a vegan once about how meat cause cholestrol placks. I mentioned how my cholesterol levels improved by taking niacin and eating more cholesterol and taking black cohosh to improve my testosterone levels by making more estrogen.

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Cannibalism? But muh prions!Well let me tell you about how you can protect yourself from prion diseases by ensuring proper protein synthesis via gut bacteria and boosting microglial effectiveness via immune function.https://t.co/XpB5s15U83https://t.co/E77w76eqxd

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago

"showed that butyrate treatment significantly suppressed lysolecithin-induced demyelination and enhanced remyelination in an organotypic slice culture in the presence or absence of microglia, suggesting that butyrate may affect oligodendrocytes directly."https://t.co/z18R1tLvoA

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I want a game with the poop physics of scum, but actually using it to create fertilizer. https://t.co/ldvR7uLjnV

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago

Although I question a game that lets you pretend to be a cannibal who poops on their own dinner...https://t.co/dV6cdCI5Rb

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wanna make a vegan cat foot that involves relying on chitinase production of gutflora to allow cats to eat mushroom based taurine.Everybody assumes that the chitinase is for eating insects, forgets that it's also important for mushroom consumption.https://t.co/1m6NyRNLXe

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Funguses produce chitinase. Does that mean they too fed off of insects?No. They likely just ate each other.https://t.co/7tOi2ZeHaT

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

There's this assumption that the rapid rise of chitenase production was due to being insectivore. But an alternate explanation is that the rise of mushrooms evolving the ability to break down lignin (tree/plant structural material) meant eating mushrooms became quite useful.

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

One of my favorite things is thinking about the guy setting up this time-lapse for showing slime-mold sporation, and then that damn snail coming along and eating them all instead XDhttps://t.co/kLgo8E5y67

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Slime Mold can produce chitenase!"it is now emerging that for several bacterial pathogens and symbionts, chitinases may be important as virulence or symbiotic factors as much as, or rather than, being important for chitin metabolism." https://t.co/Tp0UvfA8c1

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8/19/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A medical hypothesis: M.S. as an autoimmune response system gone wrong."B cells produce anti-ATR antibodies as an autoimmune response [...] thus limiting production of AdoCbl, one of the two bioactive forms of vitamin B12."https://t.co/tl5gBx80ZWhttps://t.co/9JJQca9lwc

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11/17/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I learned from a book on milling grain that the wheat germ is (supposedly) high in B12 and Zinc, along with some healthy fats, but is often thrown away because it isn't shelf stable and clogs up the mill stones.I wonder if B12 shows up on an HPLChttps://t.co/CNCZK9noVU

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

Samehttps://t.co/9i93tmPjM4

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I bet agglutin issue doesn't occur if fermented."People with Crohn’s disease are especially vulnerable to vitamin B12 deficiency, since the distal ileum is inflamed in this condition and may require months to years to recover the ability to absorb B12."https://t.co/pln6PkM0sj

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Naturally fermented Lentils reduce the impacts of naturally occuring lectins. Seems to be true in soy also.https://t.co/2IAusIIc5WTL;DR: "Wheatbelly" is just because we don't ferment our grains right? heh.https://t.co/CCtfi05Ff1

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

@eigenrobot @djmicrobeads @thinkagainer @_djpn Why don't your Microbiota eat Phytoestrogens? Bruh, your Gut is weak. Do you even prebiotic?

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"N-acetyl-D-glucosamine in the natural environment of wheat is found in the chitin of insects, and the cell membrane of yeast & bacteria"https://t.co/a1k0I4VvslWhat a small world.

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Someone found a lactic-acid bacteria that prevents agglutin associated "wheatbelly" in chickens.https://t.co/sPOGNGU3g6Did you know that most traditional sour doughs are fermented with lactic acid bacteria from the environment?

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Prediction: commensal lactic acid bacteria are able to short circuit the wheat germ agglutin processes that knock out two of the main components of breast milk, but die off in the case of crohn's inflammatory associated processes.https://t.co/uvHy4gm3Dahttps://t.co/ZgeljVzd3j

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

If I squint at my diet, I'm trying to recreate a bacterial profile that influences the colostrum production of a human mother's breast milk while trying to avoid the high levels of immune cells seen in bovine Colostrum which shape bacterial profile toward a cow's.

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Would be really funny of 'ancestral diets' actually included bread and grains to a great degree, and people masturbating's about meat based diets don't realize they're actually seeing the result of industrialized food practices absolutely butchering our food's dietary profile.

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What's fermented foods, precious?What's fermented foods, eh?https://t.co/nYgzhC376WI likes em' raw. https://t.co/34rPdoKxK0

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Is that "ancestral grains" just marketing wank? If you do the same thing to them as we do to most wheat products, you'd end up with the same sort of nutrient deficiencies, no?I suddenly have a lot more respect for bob's red mill.https://t.co/YaHzKL1Lqn

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"In 1947, decades before white flour came into disfavor, Mrs. Orton wrote “Cooking With Wholegrains” [...] developed using stone-ground grains from the water-powered gristmill in Weston and were tested in the wood-burning stove in Mrs. Orton’s kitchen."https://t.co/GygMntYFvR

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Silicon valley hipsters can suck my sweet & sour balls of dough spiked with cardamom and served with a side of lingon berry.That is to say, I made fermented swedish braided cardamom bread from scratch 27 years ago. https://t.co/BNEAZBpFIH https://t.co/Ia99JPtx2O

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago

@enkiv2 "You knew the homemade artisanal bread trend came from Silicon Valley, right?"Did it? I could have sworn it was founded in Boston and migrated to Vermont via King Arthur Flour. And those ancient grains came from Egypt https://t.co/OAc6sH6Ipp

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Something that has been bothering me lately is I remember watching how to make real Danish pastries on PBS and eating home made ones, and I can't help but balk at how store brands aren't even real food by comparison.https://t.co/6FfRSYhyX5 https://t.co/AotY08fvX8

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I picked an ingredient at random."Dietary Emulsifier Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate Alters Gut Microbiota in vitro and Inhibits Bacterial Butyrate Producers"https://t.co/YhMmPHpapawell fuck me.

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Recently, research has emerged that ties the consumption of additives to health markers through the gut microbiota. Dietary emulsifiers in particular have been proposed to display a destabilizing impact on gut health."https://t.co/yTaIppXEjD

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"study describes the effects of five dietary emulsifiers: CMC, P80, soy lecithin, sophorolipids, and rhamnolipids […] found dietary emulsifiers to significantly alter human gut microbiota toward a composition and functionality with potentially higher pro-inflammatory properties"

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

bile salts in the stomach make a huge difference in emulsifier activity too. There is so much we really don't know about food.https://t.co/PZhvPEeWsaI should learn to make hollandaise. https://t.co/iPtLmGC3PH

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago

According to this, industrial emulsifiers exist, but hypothetically being able to make a good hollandaise sauce means you are able to emulsify something well enough. https://t.co/rCCc0EUdVvSo maybe I don't need a good blender?https://t.co/UBnlGLKVOj

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wonder how many food additives and perversions of classic recipes have been done for the sake of shelf-life, color, taste simulation, and cost effectiveness.Did you know wheat germ taste good? You don't need to add as much sugar?https://t.co/x8Fzq53pXk

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

Particularly impactful when there is low glucose! So Keto + Butyrate may be a great combo. "Butyrate specifically modulates MUC gene expression in intestinal epithelial goblet cells deprived of glucose" https://t.co/4bgD5ei3Dj

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Higher proteins levels in the germ lead directly to increased Maillard reactions, so you don't need as much sugar to get a delicious rich taste.https://t.co/s3JPUaTgxb

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 10 years ago

MAILLARD REACTIONS taste awesome.http://t.co/LyudD5iBoQ

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So modern knockoff 'danish' pastries are loaded with sugar, corn, various seed oils, and emulsifiers in a mixture that almost perfectly ruins butyrate production. Fucked. https://t.co/PB42mruY97

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

Something that has been bothering me lately is I remember watching how to make real Danish pastries on PBS and eating home made ones, and I can't help but balk at how store brands aren't even real food by comparison.https://t.co/6FfRSYhyX5 https://t.co/AotY08fvX8

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

And you don't get any of proteins, fermentation byproducts, or polyphenol profile of berry filling. Even the ones that have fruit in them are loaded with pectins (sourced from citrus peels?) and cheaper corn based syrup/flavorings to simulate the fruit flavor,It's a fake out.

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Would be really funny if millennials who are eating out all the time due to precarity are actually getting healthier food simply due to restaurants being under incentives to make 'real food™'.https://t.co/sJTGeevucD

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 8 years ago

Just one perspective among many."shift from regular home cooking to the mess we're in now didn't happen overnight"https://t.co/bpSHkZZYuO https://t.co/yKvo2AVaRM

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

This made me giggle.https://t.co/UGxIKVtoX2

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11/28/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What if all those weird tradition involving cow feces and urine as part of medicinal healing practice... were actually a form of prebiotic supplementation to restore a dysbiosic gut?https://t.co/bPvq1smCwg

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

@Grimhood Found a piece exploring a possibility that you can actually use gut bacteria to produce B12, but it is largely about sustaining a colony of them within the small intestine, which isn't common among westerners.https://t.co/yczjhm3uPL

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11/30/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

My search history now includes"how calves bootstrap gut bacteria""natural de-parasitizing cow patties facilitate transfaunation""cow fecal bacteria interact with human intestinal tract""how does bacteria survive passage thru stomach into the jejunum"https://t.co/laoRaj5HE4

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

Babbling to myself about about nitrogen's role in promoting healthy gut flora and gut diversity when suddenly one of my predictions is literally quoted on the screen.https://t.co/CR4wg4eyYF https://t.co/7PGZgGr1U8

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12/3/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Bread and poppet. An oral history about how life giving angles & demons in our guts, touch our hearts and minds.https://t.co/QNltP5lM7g

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

> it is for this reason that the army uses only vitamin enriched flour in it's bread.Science(TM)

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12/11/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

pizza funnyhttps://t.co/PvpmLamJuo

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

It'd be funny if an emulsifier in Domino's drove my depression by killing gut bacteria."In fact, Domino’s Pizza has been reaping the benefits of cloud kitchens for years."https://t.co/Y1vmVZgANbIt's free real estate https://t.co/VFra8nzyhO https://t.co/1XLEkLgkl6

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1/15/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wanna know why my mom's teeth fell out.I wanna know if George Washington didn't get enough butyrate production via oral bacteria, and had dry mouth.https://t.co/olKSvOTQwehttps://t.co/nrzPA0jLqF

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

George Washington's teeth didn't rot out of his head as we understand it. He actually used some of his own teeth as part of his dentures (they weren't made of wood)? Maybe he had gum disease?Whoa.https://t.co/QA60oxEnTW

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1/15/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Pull the worm from the tooth.https://t.co/CoOYOq3y0I

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 6 years ago

@Mangan150 Dental caries are a good proxy for dietary health. I also learned that romans had a model of mouth issues ('tiny worms invisible to the eye') that were very much in line w/ modern theories on bacteria!

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1/15/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

How does one summon an ancient sumerian god? I wanna ask him a few questions about his follower's oral health.https://t.co/coJMIIv29W

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

"Cuneiform tablets from that age served as the medical reference that defined special incantations to request the Babylonian god, Ea to “get hold of the worm and pull it from the offending tooth?”"https://t.co/LlTBQAhOROtiny worms you say?https://t.co/3goAjcs4tQ

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1/15/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Sickness. Disease. Gods of pestilence.An offering to appease them.TL:DR:https://t.co/X4pgUmASEp

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

Bruh, do you even [encourage your mucus to harbor bacteria to act as the first line of defense in your immune system]https://t.co/Z2PD0FJ2yw

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1/15/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

TIL rats fed collagen peptides get fat."In conclusion, these studies demonstrated that a high intake of the collagen peptides Tn-SCP and Ss-SCP could shift the profiles of SCFA metabolism via altering the gut microbiota."https://t.co/3Uu1qXhnVshttps://t.co/9aON7Q6MDA

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 6 years ago

A medications that's been shown through a random control trial to improve autism symptoms has also been shown to directly impact the immune system as it relates to collagen synthesis which I've traced to gut bacteria common to both. https://t.co/LQUBscjyohhttps://t.co/42W3neTbXU

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4/25/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That study design seems flawed? They don't appear to increase the calories of the control group, only giving them saline in place of the collagen peptides.Did they Foie gras their liver? Or do rat livers behave differently from humans?https://t.co/39VOh4mfVK

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

I've started putting collagen peptides in my protein shake in hopes that it will increase butyrate. I may be reducing my chances of liver & colon cancer at the cost of pancreatic cancer risk. Good thing I got hardcore pancreas/insulin management genes.https://t.co/CxEOwNlPfA

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4/25/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Where I can I find the recepie of the 'full value chow'? I can't seem to find the website for "Changsha TianQin Biotechnology Co. Ltd." to even begin to think about doing a replication on squirrels.

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4/25/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Settlements could be buried under the surface of an asteroid [...] “A lot of what we think of as asteroids are very loosely organised rubble piles that do not have any intrinsic structural integrity – they are not giant boulders,”" https://t.co/4MBBLWTZsUhttps://t.co/x9tAMNT0jp

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

"This work also raises the possibility of a "doomsday vault" for sperm in space that could help preserve animal species from disasters on Earth, much as the Global Seed Vault in Svalbard, Norway, does for plant species."https://t.co/vrdb96AYBs 🤔

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5/30/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Thinking about emulsifiers again.https://t.co/aDpR1EHc3l

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago

@dschorno I gotta dig in more. I'm curious if he avoided some of the more commonly used additives. I found out that one of them commonly used Pillsbury products might actually impair gut microbiota by lowering mucus produciton.https://t.co/TRbg1zK0Dk

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8/31/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Overall, a picture of the gut microbiome playing a facilitating role between stress response, inflammation, and depression, and anxiety is emerging. Future research is needed to firmly establish the microbiome's causal role" https://t.co/k40voRAAFfhttps://t.co/PvpmLamJuo

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

It'd be funny if an emulsifier in Domino's drove my depression by killing gut bacteria."In fact, Domino’s Pizza has been reaping the benefits of cloud kitchens for years."https://t.co/Y1vmVZgANbIt's free real estate https://t.co/VFra8nzyhO https://t.co/1XLEkLgkl6

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8/31/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Was scrolling thru @RachaelRettner's feed and saw:"the researchers still need to test whether emulsifiers have the same effect in people, and so the investigators are already planning a study"https://t.co/l1UhMhWF1Xhttps://t.co/eNo1XNaP3D

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8/31/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Looks like they did the follow up!"In accordance with previous studies, both carboxymethylcellulose and polysorbate 80 induced a lasting seemingly detrimental impact on microbiota composition and function."https://t.co/ORieZllUt7

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8/31/2021