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I noticed that a fair number of people on youtube point with middle finger. šPointing with whole hand seems to also be common. āhttps://t.co/QZRW3hEgDg

"The nature of pointing may differ for children who have autism or who are deaf, and may also vary by gender. It is typically not observed in children who are blind from birth."https://t.co/4QUC3sox2D

For the longest time, one of my professors would point with his middle finger. We all thought he wasš'ing with us.Occurred to me afterward that it may have been related to his strong accent. I could never place if it was brit, canadian, or aussie.

It's interesting how the 'fisting' gesture may have developed."Given that there was no common language rudimentary sign language may have developed, forming the basis of modern-day hand gestures."https://t.co/vy4Vr2PLjl

Not trying to insult anyone's language system, but these curiosities I think are meaningful. More trying to channel thoughts around sign-language use in nonverbal autistics after hearing RA Wilson a bit about language and meaning & his views of Sapir Whorf.

"It appears that following sign training, some children do show increases in spontaneous communication, decreases in self-stimulatory behavior, and improvement in social skills. However, these outcomes are often difficult to interpret."https://t.co/YZgvjftQ7W

Oh neat, in the same set as that RA wilson interview is one with Steven Pinker from before he wrote 'the stuff of thought'.https://t.co/lf0zJrV5klHe starts out strong on the idea of thinking not as functioning on language, but of something else.

This whole idea caught my eye because of this tweet: https://t.co/30zBz7fZhO

There is no emoji for "myself" or "me" or "I" or any kind of gesticulation to identify perspective. We think this is fascinating.https://t.co/PSKBB4c2Ca

One of the most profound things I notice is that when I am able to reacquire my 'voice' during meltdown states, I am still unable to plan or 'think' in any meaningful way. I am simply able to articulate my state, where I couldn't before.https://t.co/V9UWmecEEi

Huge implications if we frame this against serotonin -> vagus nerve -> Oxytocin expression that shows up in L. Reuteri Studies (assoc. with autism).Why does a bio-available Cayenne concentrate give me my voice back during sensory associated a meltdowns? #trpv1 #actuallyautistic https://t.co/Fnbf0IeLJE

I don't know what that means. The ability of part of my 'self' to get back in touch with the part of me that has experiences seems able tap into language facilities, but I end up being unable to direct my attention or coordinate thoughts beyond basic robotic responses.

I still feel trapped in my head, but I am able to narrate that experience somehow. I can still remember things too. But it's like the part of me that takes an active role in my responses is disconnected from the way my body is acting. I don't know where to begin to look for this.

I do know that when I don't take the cayanne and am in complete autistic non-verbal mode, I am still able to gesture and grunt.The biggest challenge I run into in both cases (verbal/nonverbal) is an inability to model other's thoughts. I struggle to generalize & infer meaning.

I almost want to say that my experience is akin to what we see with described with people who's brains are split: One side deciding to do something, and the otherside simply going along for the ride and bullshiting about reasons. It's not quite that effect, but similar.

"normal people understand that the primary purpose of communication is to negotiate alignment, and these purposes tend to conflict which means that nerds have to learn how to interact with society at large"https://t.co/DP68b7KOyn