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Commodity fetishism in action. https://t.co/Ofptq81ib6
When people talk about "capitalism" causing problems in the world, what they're really talking about is a very complex construct centered around marxist thinking on opressive systems stemming from market forces interacting with government collusion.https://t.co/Z0fTGrz8Wn
There are a number of mental frameworks centered around "capitalism", each flavor referencing it's own construct of what that means. Get two people in the room who decry capitalism or meme about post-capitalism and you're not likely to get the same answers. It's multifaceted.
For some, "capitalism" represents Jeffersonian whiteness - often representing a disgust with how colonialism and male driven systems of rule leaked over from Europe as people reconstituted British law here in the states. It takes the same connotation as "white man's burden".
But for others it is more about racial boundary - with skin colour being a defining factor. The conflict arises when one group's language is referring to cultural moors and systems of rule, and another group is thinking about racial purity. There are groups viewing both as true.
There is also hints of 'power' - how one group rules another with social forces (stuff like creeping gentrification, culture destroying social policing etc) end up swaying the way groups make meaning. Terms like 'violence' and 'oppression' are often framed under this ontology.
Like most conflicts among human groups, linguistic divide here seems to put a dampener on how things communicated. And there are also those who are smart enough to see this problem and intentionally muck with it via meta trolling. Most are simply blind to the schism in language.
Quite often I see people arguing at this language barrier. one person talking about racial stuff they likely learned in school, and another person arguing from the power / oppression framing. Like water and oil, they inevitably disagree and can't find common ground.
When people talk about echo chambers, this language barrier issue is often hinted at but not fully spelled out. It's the same concept of the "shibboleth", but more fundamental. It's not just words differing, but entire mental constructed founded on divergences in life experience.
Often even if two people or groups manage to hash out their differences in perspective on the issue (and find a common goal they both agree is worth persuing) we still see conflict. Each group's sense of risk varies, so choice of approach biases toward what they see as problems.
A different way to think of this is thru a lens of story telling. We are raised in a society that fundamentally transmit's it's cultures wisdom thru narrative. Different people from different locations are brought up under widely varying 'myths' - epic tales that bias thinking.
I think of it in terms of children's books. Two different families living next to each other can be taught entirely different sets of lore. I was raised on Curious George + various forms of protestant. My best friend (when I was 4) had maylasian myths & where the wild things are.
Our belief systems differed quite a bit. But being so young, we didn't have enough of a language barrier built up to prevent us from mixing our myths together. Our stories cross pollinated and I still occasional think of spirits in terms of 'hauntu'.
I have a framework I can hang these ideas on that others haven't spent time to develop. And it lets me model 'other' ways of thinking in familiar patterns. Effectively, I can translate a culture's lore (at least those that fit my internalized views) between ontological domains.
I see myths as foundations for concepts, similar to how language processing develops (or more specifically how what you 'hear' in a language is biased as a child develops). If mental framework isn't able to process other models for thinking, they might as well be speaking cat.
It's like how I can't roll r's when trying Spanish & I'll never be able to 'hear' languages that rely on inflection/intonation. If I was raised that way, I might have been able to. But it would take a lot of effort to put myself into the beginners mind to do that effectively.
I use this meta-model of understanding social constructs to great effect. Part of why I have all those weird poetry threads on here: trying to adapt my autistic brain to learn stuff like idioms and 'donkey anaphora'. Digesting metaphor from my own culture: https://t.co/qdbGAcD4ea
I see this strange conflict in views/ideologies everywhere now. I spend a lot of time searching out writings that attempt to bridge these gaps, while actively shunning stuff that seems to be driving further wedges between groups.
A recent one I read was from @enkiv2 where they attempt to explain and dissolve the boundary around the disjoint sense of 'violence' that seems to cause conflicts between libertarian thought and 'social justice' types. https://t.co/CMdKDbcuYv
Some of the best kinds of this writing is a sort of piecemeal decomposition of a memetic construct - trying to see the shape of an egregore and elucidate (illuminate?) places where they are more similar than we thought. A sort of interpersonal peace accord ~finding common ground.
I also think a lot about this particular piece on how the kinds of people we end up interacting with in a group are often the loudest. And how that noise biases our perceptions thru majority illusions.https://t.co/hEk6s5q5Jw
I added "Stories masked in a cocoon of insight porn and body horror." to my bio here a while back b/c fundamentally I see what I am doing is finding + inventing alternative narratives on how we view the world. An attempt model as many minds as possible. https://t.co/3Lo0tAPEX8
Going with the rest of this thread, I think the first step in understanding someone else's experiences is in undoing our preconceived notions and opening ourselves up to the possibility of alternative models of reality. Turning this into a game of sorts: https://t.co/UD7lc9FElq
Memetic theory of mind.https://t.co/rVWHrRSp6j
Memetic theory of mind.https://t.co/okNxT6Mnoe
Memetic theory of mind.https://t.co/a2J9weh8RI
Memetic theory of the bicameral-mind.https://t.co/hzeDZW3q6R
Mimetic theory of mind.https://t.co/NAgkBICGg5
Amazing what you can learn about someone by consuming a fictionalized philosophical work, drilling down into the memes that would have been influencing themselves at the time of their ideas developing, and building up alternate realities.https://t.co/3rS4y9oayU
How to mine the map of the memetic mind map.https://t.co/wfOS1zFBZF
Reposts: how hiveminds synchronizes meaning making machinery.Like clockwork machine,memes drip into our stream:Raw materials for the swarm to mime.Meaning crystallizes differently, echos of time.Recapitulating Sybils Swarmhttps://t.co/qWjXs19Ymkhttps://t.co/PzhWUD9DJ7
Metaphysical Mentalism.https://t.co/TksgGBw1Uz
Do, or do not. There is no wondering.Act as if."I wonder if the urge to synchronize other people's opinions with yours is the same that lets dominant thoughts in your own mind subdue and harmonize your other thoughts."https://t.co/Nyf8ONuNpV
One culture bending another to it's will thru systematic subjugation. https://t.co/hvvZbnVVSu
Same same, yet different."Most Haitians practice both Vodou and Roman Catholicism, seeing no contradiction in pursuing the two different systems simultaneously."https://t.co/S3n8IiHwag
Listening to modern recreation of Viking chants and the words echo gods of healing from Egypt and Rome.https://t.co/jmEECtyNhW
"a traditional shamanic healing songlike we find it in basically all cultureslike in all animist or shamanic culturesof course in different languagesand with the different cultural hats"https://t.co/JsvpZvVhnV
Memetic theory of mind.https://t.co/pVsMV7x5Eo
I hear sounds in music and suddenly can picture images of every instrument that sounds like it. https://t.co/EmJG31QgRn
"Remember, that we all are brothersAll people, beasts, trees and stone and windWe all descend from the one great beingThat was always thereBefore people lived and named itBefore the first seed sprouted"https://t.co/50U9xgJNSFhttps://t.co/e98yxDaWQP https://t.co/McP9CWotpM
That song has a bow spun like a bull-roarer.https://t.co/rE31ElWgON
I'm starting to be able to go in reverse. To see an impression of an object and envision how to use it as an instrument.I found someone on facebook critiquing the interpretation of some cave paintings just from the phone. (areophone => bullroarer) https://t.co/kMa2bmMh2b https://t.co/4baFCbmzcX
Makes me laugh how random person on a Facebook group interested in "the origins of music" are flabbergasted that the experts could be interpreting something obviously musical instruments as ritual worship object.https://t.co/ad8RrtVgE4
Memetic theory of mind.https://t.co/kZ72Gu6MOH
@ultimape https://t.co/LaNuypqoQy
@ultimape https://t.co/uZ1ExWvRGr
Kid in my DMs: Visa, can I ask you for your thoughts on socialism me: what’s that kid: you don’t know what socialism is?? but you’re so smart me: i really don’t! kid: um, it’s about, abolishing capitalism me: what’s capitalism? kid: you’re kidding me me: I’m really not