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Jakeup@yashkafover 5 years ago

Ol' Isaac got dibs on light and the laws of motion, so my goal for the quarantine is to figure out the hard problem of consciousness. Here's step 1. https://t.co/mFCp9IH8Bp

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @yashkaf

@yashkaf Ooh, definitely check out McGilchrist if you haven't already, both because he offers an important counterpoint to Jaynes & because while his theory doesn't comment much directly on the hard problem, it's definitely relevant 🧠 semi-thread here re JJ&IM 👇 https://t.co/u8IZb0PYdr

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago

His theory suggests that the phenomena Jaynes describes are occurring for exactly the opposite of the reason Jaynes' posits—not a meeting of previously separate hemispheres, but an alienation between the hemispheres, which produces a self-consciousness towards the voices.

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Jakeup@yashkafover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean Literally the plan for the book club is Jaynes and then McGilchrist. I made a note to check out your thread when we get to it, I don't want spoilers :) https://t.co/7qi2LVdmZ2

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @yashkaf

@yashkaf Fyeah! Would love to come to that bookclub meet-up! I don't know the parameters but lmk 😊

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Jakeup@yashkafover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean We have three more weeks of Jaynes, so the first McGilchrist meetup should be on 4/29 (or 5/6 if we take a break). Shoot me an email with the title "Bicameral Book Club" and I'll add you to the list.

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @yashkaf

@yashkaf Another idea: I Am A Strange Loop by Hofstadter, which explores the question in great depth. Oddly, despite DH talking of self as illusion, he doesn't reference Buddhism at all, and when I looked it up, he's apparently got a beef with Zen & its koans 🤷‍♀️👇 https://t.co/gAJEnyItrb

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @yashkaf

@yashkaf Have now read the post. Seems like you're off to a decent start! Loved this: 🤣 > And perhaps it could only be achieved through a genius-level application of Cunningham’s Law. Jaynes’ conclusions are provocative, and if his arguments are wrong they are wrong in subtle [...] ways

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