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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago

this needs more exploration vibe is a huge part. you're always filling in the infinite gaps in someone's content with what you perceive their vibe to be. when you're new to a domain/text/culture you've only got coarse stereotypes to guide you https://t.co/FQQhtSleNW

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago

don't you just hate it when on the third read, you see that most ways you could (and in fact did) abuse rationality were warned about in key rationality texts, and you didn't understand/ignored it the first time?

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

vibe needs more splitting. "someone's vibe" highlights the part that's intrinsic to them, but i also want to use "your concept of someone" to highlight your part in this your concept of others can be hella persistent, because it fills in the cracks, and reaffirms itself

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

depending on your topic, if you want to really make your point, you need to disrupt other's concepts of you. EY has major STEMlord vibes, made it harder for me to notice when notice when his writing WILDLY DIVERGED from spergy STEM doctrine

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

i often want think of rewriting the sequences (parts on changing your mind, noticing confusion, original seeing, and language) can i write more lucidly than ey? nah do i have a different enough vibe that a whole nother swath of people might get it? YAH

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

https://t.co/uSKtWTxtF8

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

also: there's a skill to noticing what will and won't be utterly mindblowing/foreign/impossible to [audience]. If ur stemy, the idea that math doesn't give "Absolute Truth" is CRAZY, and so even if it takes a paragraph or two to explain, maybe make a bigger deal and draw it out

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

^ specifically talking about this "how you'd prove 2 + 2 = 3" first time i went, "huh, sure", didn't really think about it, forgot, and then did NOT update at all https://t.co/PLt5zCu0qp

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago

. @ESYudkowsky https://t.co/8heu4S4GWh EY: inf certainty is not a thing me: yeps! u so right dawg EY: even for math (but i'd bank on it more than almost anything) me: ...... yeah, of course.... (doesn't buy that shit) (...4 years later...) https://t.co/FwQsQ78Xev

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

eternal struggle: if you're vibe is too different from your audience, they'll throw it out ("that's just some humanities bullshit"). if it's too similar, they won't notice when you contradict the doctrine

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

Smullyan disrupted my concept of him. first knew him via a puzzle book on logic then turns out he's also a magician and a taoist philosopher he's convinced me that I don't already understand him and should pay careful attention https://t.co/fSTRYiD5an

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago

oh shit, Raymond Sullivan wrote an intro to taosim??!?!? this dude loved logic puzzles and had a playful relationship to mathematical incompleteness and logic this is exactly the man I need to demonstrate The Way

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Elodes@ElodesNL• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

@natural_hazard This is a damn great thread!

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

damn, scooped by epictetus 🙃 venerating a thinker seems to induce the same trap. if you're super eager to adopt someone's views, you start ignoring all of the "wait, wtf did they say?", so even if they are correct, you smoosh it into something more palatable

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

another angle where hero-worship turns out to not be helpful. it's breaks communication, you learn less, and the creator get's less quality feedback https://t.co/qGDLXAq2lq

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

Don’t worship people - you’re doing them a disservice, and you’re insulting + hamstringing the process that makes good work. If you *have* to worship something, worship the process https://t.co/g2RdWGFUGZ

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

"Reading philosophy charitably is akin to choosing the interpretation of the text that most fits your modern understanding of things. That's a shitty way to grow and gain perspective, so don't." https://t.co/6gChG3YIY4

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monk@mechanical_monk• over 5 years ago
Replying to @natural_hazard

@natural_hazard I'd also like to rewrite the sequences, just to make it shorter by an order of magnitude and more orderly so that people actually read it when I bash them over the head with it

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monk@mechanical_monk• over 5 years ago
Replying to @mechanical_monk

@natural_hazard The biggest problem with LW is that the only people who enjoy reading 1800 pages of insight porn are so disembodied that intellectualizing is their only mode of escape

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monk@mechanical_monk• over 5 years ago
Replying to @mechanical_monk

@natural_hazard @nosilverv just felt like tagging you

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Guy HAS FINISHED WRITING THE BOOK (BETA)@nosilverv• over 5 years ago
Replying to @mechanical_monk

@mechanicalmonk1 @natural_hazard happy you did. i think there's a really 180 page book to be written which is the sequences but simple and for the population at large

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monk@mechanical_monk• over 5 years ago
Replying to @nosilverv

@nosilverv @natural_hazard I found a rough chaotic outline/pile of notes I took probably a couple of years ago of what I'd find most important to be included The sequences were about how to think about AI-grade problems; a book about how (& why) not to be a r-word in your daily life could be a lot shorter https://t.co/HGID5ws5Po

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Hazard@natural_hazard• over 5 years ago
Replying to @mechanical_monk

@mechanicalmonk1 @nosilverv yeeeeees, noted as a comrades in the "distill the sequences" army

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