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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago

I post about stuff I like more than about stuff I don't like. This leads me to other people who talk about stuff they like. This leads to friends, which is wealth and meaning. It's all so simple in my head. What am I missing re: why it's not so simple to others?

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12/23/2019
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QC@QiaochuYuanover 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv as usual i’ll chip in with: trauma has a lot to do with it. simple ex. is people who got bullied for being honest about what they liked growing up and now feel unsafe talking about it trauma means people living in different worlds, made of the worst parts of their childhoods

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12/23/2019
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv My latest frame for this: everyone is basically living in a dream mashup of their current external situation and their old emotional meanings. Like dreaming you're at school but it's also on a boat somehow. & as in dreams, somehow the weirdness of this mashup goes unnoticed

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12/23/2019
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan that's a very rich and evocative picture, nice

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12/23/2019
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@Malcolm_Ocean mad a vid about this tweet https://t.co/j6iPKR888A

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3/30/2021
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv Pete Walker has a great article about this phenomenon: > Because most emotional flashbacks do not have a visual or memory component to them, the triggered individual rarely realizes that she is re-experiencing a traumatic time from childhood. https://t.co/5GCWlsD2tc

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1/1/2020
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv Note that while he's talking about Complex PTSD, schools are prisons so basically everybody is actually traumatized quite a lot. In some dimensions this has gotten better; in others, worse: https://t.co/P6wmjrko5D

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1/1/2020
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv We recognize a certain baseline level of trauma as being the norm, and fail to realize that there could be a completely different way of humaning that doesn't involve everyone constantly rehashing these old nightmares at each other. https://t.co/3n12TKc0Ht

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago

@QiaochuYuan @a_witch_in_time Yeah, I generally phrase this as "because the DSM measures deviation from norm, it is structurally incapable of recognizing a dysfunctional condition that everyone has." I tried to say this to a group of ppl at YC120 and one of them literally said "but then it would be normal!" https://t.co/AlKssHT58M

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1/1/2020
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv Mmm just found this old tweet and it's also very relevant to the whole school thing. Most schools (and much of parenting) is based on a lot of authority-imposed reward & punishment, rather than exploring & learning via trying things & seeing what happens. https://t.co/Iv2e4hC9cd

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago

@cosimia_ @Conaw "reward is just the temporary relief of punishment" might surprise; it connects with my remark at the top that most humans are in chronic fear. Reward represents temporary relief of that fear: don't worry, you're okay, you did the right thing—this time. Implicit threat.

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1/17/2020
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv https://t.co/D2wCPzs4Ja

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 5 years ago

@s_r_constantin Veterans know, consciously, they're not still on the battlefield, but it doesn't take much to create an emotional flashback. This 1min video is very illustrative and not likely to be disturbing to most people (sound on) https://t.co/xtRDUJ9mBz

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2/4/2020
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanabout 4 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv this tweet now has a whole blog post on the model, what it implies, and how I approach working with this phenomenon! https://t.co/8qP6ApK4pJ

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6/30/2021
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 4 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan hell yea https://t.co/3KCGsDP1Tb https://t.co/z7ah1f7xDh

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6/30/2021
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QC@QiaochuYuanover 5 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@visakanv 252 RTs and 734 likes: https://t.co/rCW9Tf7Lvl

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12/24/2019
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monk@mechanical_monkover 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I think that most of the time when people ask "why don't you simply…", the reason why people don't "simply…" is either low trait conscientiousness or depression (I think the effects are relatively similar, difference is in permanent/temporary)

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12/23/2019
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago
Replying to @mechanical_monk

@mechanicalmonk1 yeah https://t.co/33P6agP0N9

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12/23/2019