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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago

I once did an emotional processing session starting w: "I feel weird/bad trying to get out of bed" I found my way to expressing a hazy memory: "Nobody woke me up and I missed the pancakes!" ...then I suddenly started sobbing 😭 Traumatic meaning can occur in benign situations.

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

The meaning I made of this event was apparently something like "Nobody loves me and people will leave me behind when something important is happening and it's not safe to sleep-in but it's also not safe to get up because then I might discover the empty plate and feel awful."

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

(Technically this was not a memory but what I call a "pseudomemory", because I can't locate it as a single specific autobiographical event in my life, and I'm not going to confidently claim it happened as stated. It was clearly very real to my emotional brain though.)

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

For years I pushed back against "everyone's got this cultural trauma". And of course some people have more intense histories and/or more present blockage than others, but in the last few years I've come to appreciate that indeed, everyone is traumatized. https://t.co/m7gwxiMD4t

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

That linked tweet and this one are both from a thread talking about how there's a kind of memetic meta-trauma that keeps trauma from being able to be digested & developed: https://t.co/GoLLMelHsj

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QC@QiaochuYuanβ€’ almost 6 years ago

@AdeleDeweyLopez @Malcolm_Ocean @DavidDeutschOxf @DougTataryn so now imagine that the trauma-optimized memetic payload is like - do these things and not these other things - punish people for not conforming - punish people for expressing negative emotions about these memes

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

So I resonate a lot w eg @nosilverv's underlying sentiment here but if expressed as "children have right not to undergo trauma" we're gonna end up with a huge motte-bailey mess. There's no clear lines & the issue isn't trauma but capacity for digesting. https://t.co/ALLIh7pS98

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

Ofc, many co-morbid Adverse Childhood Experiences ALSO wreck capacity for digesting. However, I think that reifying the idea that "trauma shouldn't happen to you" / "you have a right to not experience trauma" makes it harder, not easier, to digest though.

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Aella_Girl has a really rich & nuanced post grappling with the same sorts of question, around the value of recognizing one's pain, but the way that "trauma" & "abuse" can reinforce a blame frame that blocks healing. https://t.co/H8Kl8ETsIZ

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

Most people have heard of PTSD, but most people haven't heard of PTG: post-traumatic growth. That sometimes adverse experiences, *when* they're able to be digested & integrated, yield powerful learning. PTSD isn't inevitable from trauma. https://t.co/QC19rQURxL

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QC@QiaochuYuanβ€’ almost 6 years ago

@Malcolm_Ocean @AdeleDeweyLopez @DavidDeutschOxf yeah, thanks for mentioning this, it should go somewhere in the story but i don't have a super clear sense of the mechanism yet. "complex PTSD" is closer to "trauma" the way i'm using it than PTSD as usually understood

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

And of course part of the issue here is we've got one complex and very loaded word "trauma" that we're throwing around to mean a lot of different things. Necessary to a collective sensemaking here is going to be developing better language & concepts. https://t.co/0tHlCfFo7w

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago

@QiaochuYuan @AdeleDeweyLopez @DavidDeutschOxf Yeah we need better ontologies for all of this stuff. @fortelabs seems to be hopping on the "but what about the huge overlooked levels of baseline trauma tho" train too btw: https://t.co/tm1SF8i21K https://t.co/WnJPqF5r4l

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Malcolm Ocean ξ¨€πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ@Malcolm_Oceanβ€’ almost 6 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

It's feeling like a rich time to be alive and exploring all of these questions together, and learning. 🎢🎡 I'm your landsailor in the bed that we've made may every nail be shown great lifebringer the price that we've paid time that you made it known https://t.co/y6lEZGVzwN

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