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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago

All the critique about that 10x programmer thread going around makes me feel like shit because of my social defects. I recognize that a lot of people are using it to signal they have an inclusive team oriented culture, but it makes me feel they haven't made space for misfits.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm going to sit on this idea for a bit and see if I can form a more coherent narrative around what I see happening.https://t.co/Gx1Z10xxoi

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

These arguments are frustrating.But we need to have them as a society if we're going to move forward. They shouldn't be left in the dark.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I feel like this discussion we're having as a culture at large is useful, but what I'm picking up on is a sort of gatekeeping dynamic. The original thread is seen as gatekeeping, but instead of unlocking gates, it feels like we're arguing where gates should be. Lines in the sand.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Viewing 10x'ers under this lens of 'hackers' illuminates gatekeeping issue."what I want to do is I want to foster a technology culture in which a high value is placed on understanding and being explicit about your biases about what you’re leaving out"https://t.co/fcT1vH9LQz

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

There's something weird about the discussion too. So much of the dynamic about hiring programmers feels like we're being treated as cattle; cogs in the machine. DHH tried to make this dynamic more explicit in his thread here: https://t.co/5TgBzi5euo

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So much of the reaction seems to be shitting on these straw workers themselves. Very few talk about social dynamics to handle misfits. It's framed as the 10x'ers fault for being given too much workload. Rarely to we question management paradigms that makes that dynamic possible.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

There's really two sorts of phenomena occurring that seem to be conflated in people's mind on the issue. There are assuredly toxic workers who drag down others and act as roadblocks. But equally so many of our office environments breed toxic incentives and mishandle task load.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I think what i'm reacting negatively to in this larger discussion space is the blame going around. We're taking people's very specific connotations of 10x'er and then holding up our own straw version of them and then screaming at each other about how bad these people are.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

And naturally people react to this screaming "oh hey, we don't keep those straw programmers at our office, those people are assholes".It's projections? Even my own unease is that I can project myself into the socially aloof genius programmer role. Easy to take personally.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I think the original thread that sparked the resurgence of this discussion, as well as the blow back, all cuts me deeply because it seems to be so close to just listing off all the failures we typically see in autistic individuals WRT social needs in the workplace.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I literally have the ability to do what that thread epitomes as a 10x'er - keeping things in my head and remembering large swaths of code. This is how my brain works. It made me feel good that someone thinks i'm valuable for being able to do that.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm not good at meetings, and generally find I have a lot of difficulty explaining myself to other people. All the problematic social issues that come with being a poor communicator. That's me too.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I think it hurts more because I recognize these are my failures. The things so many people are critiquing as being aspects of a bad team player are the very issues I try so very hard to ameliorate. It feels like my failures being shoved back at me after feeling good about myself.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So many people feel the need to highlight how shitty this straw programmer is. And many CEOs are going out of their way to signal that they don't keep these individuals because they're toxic.Am I toxic? How do I stop being toxic?

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Where can I find employers who see this dynamic and try to make space for people like me. People who take on more burdens than they should because they don't know how to say no. People who aren't good at navigating social nuances and can't really handle pair programming.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Everybody says how awful it is that the 10x'er ends up trying to do everything on their own and becomes a bottleneck. I haven't seen a single person yet who has spoken against this narrative and wondered "maybe they have an executive issue and need more help planning their work?"

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

When I see stuff like that cropping up, I start to wonder how much agency that person has over their work. Are they trying to take on more work to look good? Why do they feel compelled to do that? Is the work environment making people feel like they have to perform or get fired?

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I was watching "New Game!" - an anime series about a fresh graduate who entered a game development as a programmer. Something that stuck with me was how strong their team was. How flexible they were to accommodate the programmer who's anxiety made them unable to do face-to-face.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm struck against my sense of how dysfunctional most workplaces are. I personally gravitate toward startups; there is room to for many of them to accommodate misanthropic behavior. E.g. you don't need to endure stressful meetings if your workplace operates entirely via Slack.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So many attacks against this straw programmer are how much they ignore changing business needs and how often they'll just fuck off and do their own thing. I don't find this the case when you're working on a team with strong goal alignment and mission.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

For some places, I feel this need to perform as a team is often people upset that a socially aloof person isn't participating in a (toxic?) culture because they don't enjoy participating in office politics. I've been burned by this dynamic myself.https://t.co/tZ9icISsmf

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 9 years ago

if job listing says "team player" & "self motivated", It means you'll be working in a hierarchy of silo'd teams & on-boarding is ad-hoc.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So much of the way we work together comes off as performative. Someone like me isn't good at doing that kind of thing. Heck, I sometimes forget other people need to see me smile otherwise they think i'm mad. Its exhausting having to jump thru these hoops to 'prove' I'm helping.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'd rather work alongside people in an online space because I don't need to constantly smile and nod and do all the social niceties that people need to see so they don't start thinking you're mad or jealous of them. In an office environment, I'd be seen as a loner.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

We frame this straw 10x programmer as getting grumpy and being a 'Jackal and Hyde' character. But I can't help but question if this is a failure mode of an over-stressed autistic type struggling with feelings of inadequacy; Worried they might get fired for their social failings.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I often wonder how others view me. Is my behavior coming off as toxic? Does my dysphemistic language and radical honesty come off as rude and negative? Do I drag down the people around me? What kind of organizational structure would protect others from my toxic attitude?

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Again, much of this is my own projection into this space. I've been trying to find a role where I can 'work' and be productive and not just drive everyone away from me.https://t.co/FetRnrqAjG

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

I'm autistic and obsessed with programming / software. Given the right environment I think I'd be an asset. But I'm applying for disability.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

All of my time spent trying to not be sick and get stable is so I can find time to code. It was the only point in my life I felt truly happy.https://t.co/2O6DUmb7mS

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

We can now replace every brogrammer with an AI that shares your values as a corporation.You can now replace harmful teachers with state approved chatbot services to better indoctrinate the next generation. https://t.co/tqiSbKofbZ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I time traveled and turned @balajis' idea into a joke.https://t.co/i2aOM6sLzn

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago

Truly, You Have a Dizzying Intellect.🤔 https://t.co/y4o7nvbCKK

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

AI nanny state when?https://t.co/4RVX610RNc

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 10 years ago

Changing Nanny-State Culture:1) Believe in people.2 a) Engineer habitats.2 b) shift students to teachers.3) Get folk onboard.4) Goto 1.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

> implying you'll be in control of the AI software that teaches your children.https://t.co/mWuquJXwCW

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago

This space is going to get real weird soon. https://t.co/40l1vbBZSrThey might force GitHub to crackdown on open source AI projects?

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Will you hold my hand one last time?https://t.co/lclEK4wqhq

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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• over 1 year ago

one can imagine that those children would be helped in a real and serious way by an assistant AI caretaker but of course very quickly that leads to a similar result as those of stalin and mao via the usual moral slippery slopes and bureaucratic imperialism

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

And remind me I must fight?https://t.co/59KBvFDcL7

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 4 years ago

Mom, the SmartLOCK on the fridge is starving me again because the phone interpreted me dancing as having autism. It trigged the PICA protection protocol.Can you call the doctor to override it again? I'm hungry.https://t.co/GA4UkKmBNY

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

I have seen the future.https://t.co/PZMNgwrto9

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 4 years ago

You know someone is going to do it. Its inevitable.https://t.co/SMztmJRnC5

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Cuz I wanted to build it.https://t.co/nAve4k8Xib

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 4 years ago

In collage I bit-banged a USB bluetooth transceiver to make it work with an Arduino Uno. I made a knockoff version of Wibree because zigbee was too expensive and powerline stuff was over my head.That Wibree is what turned into BLE, btw.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

State mandated AI support bots for autistic tots.https://t.co/ts8QbeXa0R

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago

If autistic kids had a chip, it might mean police won't shoot them if they act out. Children like to fidget and autistic kids often will rip the armband off, donchaknow. Think of the children.🙄https://t.co/YI98ZRAcZFThis article is from 2013 btw.https://t.co/mUsNOV8JbI https://t.co/66aG5InOgL

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Pick up that can, citizen.https://t.co/xYSTSKzIB6

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 4 years ago

Do you ever wonder if someone would hire you to figure out how to track and trace every living person on the earth?https://t.co/86CjPrYTPF

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

"As the new school year kicks off in the Northern Hemisphere, we are highlighting a few useful ways that schools, institutions, and educators can use the new wave of AI tools." https://t.co/AWK6peuwoKI can smell it. https://t.co/gr1PCJPigZ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

Heck, I can basically taste when I'm reading something from Wharton school for business because it's dripping with creepy ideas about how to manipulate people.https://t.co/ZnPgCrLDbj

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

AI nanny state, for everyone!https://t.co/UbwgjnzQpK

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

"And you don't seem to understand." 🎶https://t.co/3bkOoLhBqY

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 2 years ago

https://t.co/crxDBsX8aS https://t.co/cpaE53WOBn

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Speak of the devil and he shall appear.https://t.co/RgtkNTk26I

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

State mandated AI tutors for reasons."How AI can accelerate students’ holistic development and make teaching more fulfilling"https://t.co/R6fa5f9Isuhttps://t.co/nTGFrSyqR0

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 5 years ago

> the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between teaching & propaganda. you imbecile. you fucking moron"Deal with it.https://t.co/sZprsN0ZFC

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

inb4 "it is absolutely vital that we spend $$$ on AI tools and services to keep our younger generation competitive in todays global and increasing AI driven technological workforce"

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UltimApe@ultimape• 10 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Oh neat. I'm the first person to archive ed[dot]gov's page on where they're using AI to support outcomes.https://t.co/qwdVEJYHKIhttps://t.co/hTC1RasJuI

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