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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago

Have you considered that this person might be under the influence of propaganda themselves, meant to sow divisive rhetoric between patients and care providers?If I wanted to push levers to destroy a nation, i'd attack it's weakest links. In america, healthcare is a major one. https://t.co/BxEBTdrEHk

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A twitter account dedicated to name-and-shame anti-vax types under a guise of self-righteous vitriol "one idiot at a time" is a fundamentally a force of mob justice. Adding fuel to the fire of toxic discourse. This makes people feel attacked and it shuts down critical thinking.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Creating an environment where doctors are against patients is how you create an us-vs-them divide between cultures of people and creates the foundation of a cultural barrier. This is a major wedge many anti-vax types use to spread misinfo under "you can't trust them" rhetoric.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The irony is that funny popular tweet is spreading it's own conspiracy as a payload. 3 people have pointed out how 'bots' are in fact being used to drive anti-vax associated conflict. They are reacting to the implied insinuation that such behaviors are a conspiracy.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So I found the original ask reddit thread. Of course they quote/screenshot that one because it fit's their narrative about how idiotic these anti-vaxers are. It's all chum to feed their twitter audience.I prefer this one myself: https://t.co/8QF2xc0wP3

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So maybe about 90% of the people who go see the doctor are just the scared type that one mentions. But if you inspire a culture of treating people on the fence as idiots, you're going to drive them into the open arms of anti-vax types who are more kind and open than that.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I've been following a trend of people into alternative/eastern medicine being memed into the anti-vax movement because of how aggressive everyone is on the topic. Its really frustrating.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The medical system is riddled with failures & oversights. Lots of people have had bad experiences with it and find success in other fields. This creates a wedge of doubt that can be hammered by anti-vaxer agenda.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Seeds of doubt from lived experience makes appeals to authority fall flat. Then you got this subculture of ridicule that really only serves to drive more animosity here. All this does is erode trust in the medical establishment further.But don't let me rain on your hate parade.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Funny how there is all this literature on how communities spread misinformation, but all these doctors (and gawkers) care about is 'fact based medicine'. It's how they justify their behavior to each other - ignoring the larger social tends. Feels good to feel superior.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I don't even feel good knowing about this. I don't feel superior either. I just feel like shit about it because I know it basically can't be helped. This is the larger illness in our digital societies. An artifact of linguistic divides conflicting with each other at scale.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"People engaged the trolls, thinking that they were arguing in good faith, which only escalated the controversy and played into their hands."https://t.co/B6JAU1VZGL

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"On a more sophisticated level, stoking online controversies is a cheap way of understanding a rival power’s ‘fracture points‘. Some will catch fire, some won’t, and the attacking power learns which is which through trial and error." 🤔

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

if you're spreading this kind of stuff because you're pointing out how shitty these people are, realize you're actually part of the larger problem that is a huge driving force behind spreading anti-vax nonesesne.Inoculate yourself. Stop the spread of meta-misinformation today!

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Shame doesn't work if the person you're trying to shame doesn't consider you as part of their ingroup. Shame only works well when trust bonds are strong among conspifics. If not, you're just signaling your ingroup. Its basically masturbation at that point.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I've been reading about MMS. Its literally about giving autsitic kids bleach. The same forces behind this larger measles anti-vax trend are also fueling that spread. It's one part religious zealotry, and one part MLM scam.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Animosity toward theses parents is driving them underground. This is preference falsification in action:https://t.co/KY20AED6QD https://t.co/50DT4Jds9T

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I want to make my own in a DIY bio lab to test a theory that viralphages and bacteria cooperating can do a better job than vaccines since they can be transferred from host to host among a population of mice. Do don't talk to me about herd immunity.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I saw a 'homeopathic' product the other day. It says it's "1x"... I got really mad because not only is it bullshit, its literally not even real homeopathic medicine unless you get to at least 10x dilution. It's just poison advertising itself as cure.

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

So many bad memes floating around... all coalescing into giving children bleach.https://t.co/f63cwqFvke

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Another good one from that reddit thread: https://t.co/aBSUHbXR1R

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5/24/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Here's another one! 🤔 https://t.co/tZDmLc4EZ4

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5/24/2019