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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

Knowing how to use tactical agreement + knowing when to STFU easily puts you in the top 1% of conversationalists

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

If you look at the state of your correspondence and find it wanting (chronic nitpickers, it you,) you can replace the whole thing with 1. STFU 2. Agree thoughtfully and supportively when you see an opportunity to agree and you will immediately find yourself making more friends

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

You can disagree supportively too, though that requires more skill and nuance ā€œBut I don’t want to support people!ā€ - that means you don’t want to make friends. Sounds like a sad and lonely life to me, but fair enough it’s your life https://t.co/sl601VdAQT

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago

There is an art to replying and commenting, and probably like 60-70% of people I’ve seen on the internet fail at it. The important thing is not to speak your mind, but to ā€œsupportā€ the OP. You can support them by disagreeing well & you can ā€œmis-supportā€ them by agreeing stupidly

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

ā€œBut the wrong people,,, need to know they are wrongā€ - do they really? And does telling them they are wrong help them see they are wrong? I’ve seen people use this logic to enable their bullshit for years without ever stopping to see if it even works (hint: it doesn’t)

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

It can *seem* like it works because you receive signals of support from other people who agree with you that the wrong people are wrong, and you *can* make friends this way, sometimes great ones But if you’re not careful, you end up surrounded by haters. It only takes a few

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I think a sad thing I’ve seen is when people who have been wronged, victimised etc set out to seek justice - which is IMO a good thing!! - but in the process inadvertently end up becoming a proxy for contemptuous haters. It happens. There are abusers just looking for a reason https://t.co/i722EA6NzK

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

IMO, the best way to help people ā€œsee they are wrongā€ is to ask them questions. The full playbook would take like ~30 tweets minimum so not gonna get into that now,,, but anyway, always worth considering & evaluating the outcomes of your correspondence. Does it spark joy? šŸ˜‚

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

You can construct the playbook yourself from 1st principles if you know a few things. People’s conclusions are based on (a) their experience + (b) cherished assumptions, so you’ll rarely persuade them by arguing about conclusions. Ask kindly about a & b https://t.co/llbrYvkfTe

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

here's another way of looking at it if we have a disagreement, we need to identify our respective assumptions, and talk about our respective experiences. if you're not open to doing that then don't waste people's time by disagreeing with them stupidly https://t.co/QctWih0sPd

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

A thoughtful disagreement can probably be reduced to ā€œthis is where I’m coming from, where are you coming from? Help me understand why I don’t see things the way you see.ā€ Once you see this, witnessing conclusion-level disagreements is dispiriting https://t.co/0QgRDtvdIz

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

more simply: a disagreement is interesting if both parties make an effort to show each other what they each see, and to try and see where the other party is coming from. it's uninteresting if one party is just mindlessly going "boo, no, ew, ick, weak, stupid, bad, fail"

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Also!! People generally love to corroborate their experiences (it’s a fantastic thing to do, all good conversations have some of this) AND, people are often shy/nervous to just blab on about themselves SO, asking people kindly about their experiences is INCREDIBLY POWERFUL

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

What have you seen? What surprised you? What have you been wrong about? What do you know now you didn’t before? What have you struggled with? What has your relationship with X (food, money, parents, job, dating) been like? This puts you in 0.1% and people will *love* you https://t.co/CmH88FeEmt

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I used to *suck* at this, but I was earnest and eager to be better. And it’s had the *biggest* impact on my quality of life. People seek me out to talk to me, it’s super nourishing. I’ve learned so much about the world I couldn’t have otherwise, via people https://t.co/8XO9AQCkkc

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

Meeting internet friends from around the world is always a huge highlight of my life and fills me with a lot of gratitude. Despite the wanton amounts of rampant fuckery on here, there are good, fun, kind, interesting people worth hanging out with

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Btw I wrote this story a while ago because I wanted to talk about this (getting good at peopling) but didn’t know how to do it šŸ˜‚ it really resonated with people https://t.co/NThxoRkOXJ

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

Story: You suck at something It bothers you, so you work hard at it & many years, through lots of pain and failure You are now good at the thing & it comes easy to you You look around and you see that most people suck at this Why don’t they just get good?? Being good rules!

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