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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago

Do you ever study something to the point that you end up going all the way back to greek foundations, and promptly realize that most of knowledge we have from the time is lost to the event horizon of the void?

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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History is not just a Borgesian library, but one that is incomplete, tainted by historical flukes, and perhaps needs to be recreated from scratch.https://t.co/m4gSKWyztc

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 8 years ago

Worst UX? Trying to find something but getting lost in Pinterest's Maze of Foraging-Porn. Borges's Library of Babel.https://t.co/uWgyCVehXK

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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Ideas perhaps linger on, existing as tradition, embedded in ritual & metis. Ideas captured by other traditions an cultures, locked out by language barriers. If we're lucky they can be distilled.This is "Intellectual Dark Matter" as coined by @SamoBurja https://t.co/OU9EW04j40

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

In my head, I have it as "ivory", and frame it as the loss of elephants.The elephant never forgets, unless you murder everyone and burn their tombs of knowledge because you haven't invented plastic yet.https://t.co/hdYVJzIMXm

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I got all the way back to Aristotle vs Platonism while studying the way that swarms make meaning and how groups self organize around political structures, part of this being a result of studying the history of propaganda & advertising.https://t.co/8LxaJ6ypeu

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 9 years ago

"Ancient crowds tended to be more interactive than they are today"https://t.co/PqHpE692rd https://t.co/U6MntWpxoB

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

It is ancient wisdom.https://t.co/9OfV3LPmtB

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 8 years ago

MFW: realizing Aristotle's "kyklos" was really about chaos among human societies. Proto complex systems theory. And it still applies today. https://t.co/2wQuV4wP3X

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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Cybernetics could be framed as recreating those past ways of thinking. At least that is one avenue that lead me back to the Grecian voidwall of knowledge.https://t.co/ugghqCFudq

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 7 years ago

@Plinz @eboyden3 I came to a similar conclusion. I traced Minsky and McCarthy (inventor of lisp) influences to how they set the stage for AI to be about language reasoning, diverting it from information theory / cybernetics. Moved field away from embodiment + agent based. https://t.co/94IKawMQEs https://t.co/gDRNqoTs4W

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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I've always hated marketing. My first startup idea was founded on the back of wanting to undermine the way brands and corporations trick us into buying stuff we don't need.https://t.co/XD4ztWDzIG

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 10 years ago

The personas targeted by shady marketing and #darkpatterns have the faces of my friends and family. I rage when I see them being targeted.

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That rabbit hole went deep.https://t.co/xdoEl7k6ru

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 7 years ago

Brands infecting friends via contagion."a reliable prediction of epidemic or information spreading pattern in complex systems, well-defined measures are essential."https://t.co/xnkkeaY55yEmotion activated mind-viruses controlling who you shit on.https://t.co/Pxktzl9wBh

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

You begin to view all of society as a sort information network.https://t.co/XEBHZBDn6D

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 7 years ago

"Two-thousand-year-old scatological graffiti show that ancient Pompeians faced some of the same problems that we face today"https://t.co/2kuRtoTicDhttps://t.co/yIYqITsMjO

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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How deep does this rabbit hole go?https://t.co/Jp6hdLzraZ

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 9 years ago

"Rethinking the Epistemological Basis of Cultural Psychology"https://t.co/rfnqXMUs4K h/t @vgr_ebooks https://t.co/Wt1vl4yVow

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

How do I use this stuff in my head to improve the world?https://t.co/q24k6qyy1x

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 7 years ago

Exhume history. Consume history. Recapitulate. Let them eat cake.Navigating maps of meaning, cybernetics to change the heading.Exploring the future with an eye on the past. Adjust. Adjust.Expanding meta narrative templates forever in a loop.METAtics.https://t.co/5NDXTEa8i7

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

More questions than answers.https://t.co/9na1VeaZng

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago

Do you ever study something to the point that you end up going all the way back to greek foundations, and promptly realize that most of knowledge we have from the time is lost to the event horizon of the void?

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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Dear reader;What do you study?https://t.co/Y9qB31NC79

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 9 years ago

"Study hard what interests you the most in the most undisciplined, irreverent and original manner possible." — Feynman

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A telephone, lost to history. An idea that we recreated as a children toy."The Chimu telephone is an excellent example of showing our ancestors had ideas and inventions that in many ways are similar to our modern ones."https://t.co/o6ZkyTg3Yohttps://t.co/lTgtghG5QJ

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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Entire networks of trade, often thought to be fabricated tales by the greek, unearthed only recently due to genetic testing. Hidden by the sands of time.https://t.co/S3VxdhoFwu

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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Could we fly with a loom and some hot air?How would we know?https://t.co/aPMYSgFaYBhttps://t.co/Sv0YL5DYeW

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 9 years ago

"the Times asked a hot-air-balloon tycoon whether humans may fly someday." https://t.co/JE67T5YIhV

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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What are we missing that is right in front of us - overlooked because we weren't looking?https://t.co/9PQJ1MJiDq

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 8 years ago

Right now there are probably spiders flying, like balloon, 3 miles over your head. 🕷️🕸️🎈https://t.co/rNliYnfE1T

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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Spiders can fly using electrostatic forces, published 2018https://t.co/pvnC082heTThe theory just sitting there for 5 years.https://t.co/kO5W7V3r4QWritten about in an obscure blog https://t.co/6lqwRXsS9sAlmost lost to time had @edyong209 not found it.

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9/26/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

> Western civilization is now imperiled by powerful, advertising-driven media obsessed by "present-mindedness" and the "continuous, systematic, ruthless destruction of elements of permanence essential to cultural activity." https://t.co/q6cjBbUZb7 https://t.co/ZqlEzvXB1C

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11/10/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Ideas lost to time due, missing a Rosetta Stone.Knowlege faded. The loss of oral histories and the destruction of books.Entire books worth of tweets, deleted.https://t.co/b9JKl3ossl

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 9 years ago

@froscixp @ctbeiser so, compression is more a consequence of value? Valuable things end up being swarmed on, so end up being Huffman coded?

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11/10/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 7 years ago
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“The truth is that computation has, from the very start, been built to rot.”— Bruce Sterling(h/t https://t.co/l1LvKcYU8j )

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11/10/2018
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The decline of knowledge, as told by @Jonathan_BlowMentions the Lycurgus Cup, pyramids, and aquaducts.https://t.co/CK4wqTongt

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7/5/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Read Old Papers" 🙏https://t.co/T3uns9ZmkR

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7/5/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Talk about ideas.https://t.co/QP0zlYkG5R

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7/5/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Number of Twitter mutuals whom end up presenting at @longnow is now n=2 (?), and one of them made my avatar because I gave them a donation.https://t.co/ohxSqBVnj1

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7/5/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
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I know at least one of my mutuals had been driven off this platform, and I considered them one of the smartest people I knew on here. I miss them.

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7/5/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The person who helped me more deeply investigate cybernetics and related fields is also no longer on this platform. Just gone.

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7/5/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I feel a sense of dread and urgency about archiving information. Like the systems we've built are dying. I feel the desire to buy EMP proof storage containers and fill them with redundant harddrives and spare computer parts + solar panels.https://t.co/hFE4lDNLKD

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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago

I sit here watching educational content blink out of existence. People being deplatformed because of splash-damage from our war on advertiser friendly content.https://t.co/3EmvlPa8U2

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7/16/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I feel fear. I think that's the word for it.https://t.co/dKyXkhJCUT

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7/16/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 6 years ago
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Thinking about collapses of meaning not as a loss, but as a chance to regrow stronger than before, fueled by the ashes of the past, acting as fertilizer.Finding the silver-lining in the rain-cloud of decay, as a metaphor of waxing and waning of seasons.https://t.co/p2f2vgzFRp

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 6 years ago

@vgr I suspect it is akin to a punctuated equilibrium in some cases. To complete the analogy of the evolution of ideas to the evolution of species, we can even suspect that societal collapse is like a great extinction event.https://t.co/QFGKIiL5fR

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10/14/2019
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago
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"We are standing on top of a vast system of institutions powered by intellectual dark matter. Some of this matter can be made visible — proprietary and tacit knowledge function in private but can be uncovered. Much of this matter is lost,"https://t.co/cnRrkLWtAq

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4/1/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What if this tool wasn't about "earth quakes" but about a form of seismic communication being retrofit to detect earth quakes?https://t.co/I8mIj6w7Iwhttps://t.co/2sClKUdrxBAncient Greeks had an uncanny ability to locate fault lines, most of their temples are built on them.

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9/12/2020
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"however, we instead imagine the people naked, feasting on berries, without shelter, and without social differentiation. The contemporary imagination of the state of nature has been bounded by the thought experiments of Western political theorists. "https://t.co/Ctk0EWX6vm

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5/19/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The berry of wheat.https://t.co/vFxrm66ffV

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UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

My entire programming career and life trajectory hinged on hacking the code to a game about Ancient Sumerian agriculture.

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5/19/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Given the experiences of 19th-century archaeology, it is certain that further ancient discoveries can be made by critically examining and interpreting texts in the Sumerian and Akkadian languages." https://t.co/BZxSYYfPZL

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Do you ever dig into writing on ancient texts and discover a demon that causes stomach pains, and that sounds exactly like Crohn's disease?https://t.co/3LuAgvBj3Z

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

Sulfur Demon.Resheph / Deva"or the same reason, his bellicose nature became associated with fighting diseases such as abdominal pain, believed to be caused by a demon called Akha."https://t.co/eeaVAo0441https://t.co/3xDRQZsUyN

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5/21/2021
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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What if we just don't understand their model of the world?https://t.co/duEXgbOHSs

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UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

I learned a place got funded $1 million, and I figured out a way to fix the problem they're trying to solve a couple of years ago after learning about how to make beer using a yeast that cause ear infections after researching roman cures for otitis media. https://t.co/1t3V6dnDYl

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