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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago

there's a lot of misunderstanding going on here; people seem to assume that other people saying things must necessarily be for or against something, or making some sort of case. I think now is a good to revisit https://t.co/qFj32XDmmz https://t.co/nAGabL9Gqb

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6/23/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

there have been like at least 5 instances where I say something, and people think it means I am Saying Something. I get reactions like "so you're saying..." "your point?" Like... I don't know, guys. I'm just thinking out loud here. Why must everything Have A Point

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6/23/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Ways we fuck ourselves up: - pressure everyone to pretend to be happy -> increased depression/suicide - subject tentative thoughts to antagonistic scrutiny -> kill novel insights why do we do this to ourselves? why can't we be sad & wrong without getting so worked up?

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6/23/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Imagine a life where you're never sad and you're never wrong what a hollow, vacant life that would be yet some people actually optimize for this – substitute sadness for anger, and avoid being wrong by never trying I look forward to being sadder and wronger than ever before

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6/23/2018
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv And why does this happen? I kind of get why the wrongness thing - punishment. But why have I developed a habit of feeling angry/frustrated instead of feeling the underlying grief? It *consistently* feels better to grieve than to seethe.

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6/27/2018
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanabout 7 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@visakanv And I guess... the boring answer is that I'm a man and boys are taught not to cry or something. But I grew up in a pretty chill household as far as that stuff was concerned, so there's gotta be something else to it. Incentive structures? Did I get my way by getting mad? Hmmm...

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6/27/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean Anger is easier, I guess 🤔

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6/27/2018
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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv But then there are of course lots of people for whom anger is very much not an option, whereas crying is easier. But this crying still isn't what I'm calling "grief", above, *I think*. Not certain, but it seems it's different.

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6/27/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

@Malcolm_Ocean You’re talking about a certain kind of “breakdown” crying that’s more like an expression of distress. This is stirring some thoughts from some reading on trauma, let me see...

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6/27/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@Malcolm_Ocean This is likely relevant https://t.co/Kd3YHeCK5I

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 7 years ago

I liked this interview with @ardensirens, particularly the bits about transmuting trauma, fixing perceptions, taking responsibility for your happiness when someone/something else fucks you up. thoughtful and eloquent https://t.co/3ky4wjBKrT

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6/27/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@Malcolm_Ocean This - grief is about facing the truth. Distress-ish, woe-is-me crying and shaking your fist at the world in anger both seem to fall short a little https://t.co/DHvzUqIWCp

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 7 years ago

Sooner or later most survivors come up with some sort of "cover story" to explain their symptoms and behavior, but this "rarely captures the inner truth of the experience."

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6/27/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Cont: When I think out loud on Twitter, there are often people eager to tell me what I’m trying to say, or what my point is. It’s especially funny when even I don’t know what I think, & I don’t have any destination in mind. It’s some sort of weird, absurdist one-way Pictionary

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7/15/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

great example of how people think I'm trying to prove a point when I don't even know what my own point is https://t.co/kWo9h15oYD

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8/18/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Same https://t.co/4AL82b098B

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11/4/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 7 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Me: if I could go back in time to stop Hitler, I wouldn’t kill baby Hitler, I would befriend and encourage teenage Hitler to become the professional artist he wanted to be Guy: https://t.co/BCCu9FvmQJ

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11/22/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

https://t.co/SgwxgMk6rb

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12/23/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

It seems to me that people like this don’t know how to deal with the idea that someone might simply be a curious nerd making observations and having fun https://t.co/bOeKjaBEsg

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1/18/2019